Life on the astral plane, or of emotions and desires [IF36focus]

Since tonight the topic of the meeting, one of the topics at least, was the astral plane, the astral body, I have been designated io to come and bring you what little I know of this subject as I am a part, I reside right now on the very plane you are discussing, even though I am in the process of abandoning it completely.

I have heard in your warm discussion that, rightly, you cannot get an idea of ​​what this astral plane is like and your feelings towards it are also a bit conflicting: at certain moments you would almost want to cross over in order to see as it is, in still others you feel frightened at the prospect of this so unknown, so different thing.

Now, what can I tell you that you don't already know? I can tell you that when I found myself being aware, thanks to my media evolution, inside the astral plane, when I opened what can be considered astral eyes, I saw something indescribable in words: there was before me a new, wonderful world, made up of sensations and emotions that, in order to express them , identify in words, you can not help but associate them with the sensations and emotions that can give the lights and colors in rapid rotation between them, and this perhaps explains why - again with regard to the astral plane - entities that intervene highlight this aspect; in fact, the matter of the astral plane has its own particular luminosity which is due to the type of elementary unit that composes it and that it is very influenced by the vibrations that run through the plane, in particular by the vibrations emitted by the individuals who, for some reason, operate on that plane.

Someone asked if there is an environment: certainly, there is no doubt; consider your environment, the physical one that you know from direct experience: it is also made up of astral matter and this astral matter follows the lines of physical matter, so there is a kind of astral reproduction of your physical plane, a world that repeats the essential lines.
We could almost say that where there are physical mountains there are astral mountains, where there are physical rivers there are astral rivers, and even where there are physical persons there are the astral bodies of these physical persons that move in concert with what is the physical body. of the embodied individual. 

So there is all this objective, real astral matter that exists, but there is also all the other matter, what your dear Guides have lately called "undifferentiated matter", That which is not under the direct influence of any embodied Akasic body, and this matter remains practically free - like your air, your atmosphere on the physical plane - available to all entities who experience emotions, desires, sensations, and when he falls under the influence of these astral vibrations of the individual, they tend to be modeled, to configure what these vibrations express trying to adapt to this modification of their inertia, of their undifferentiation.

I know that it is very difficult to understand all this, but I hope that up to this point you have managed enough to follow what I am trying - with my usual effort - to tell you. Do you have something to ask about it?

Q - You said that the astral plane is a repetition of the physical plane, in some way, so it has its solar systems, its stars, or is there no astral matter?

The whole environment, the whole cosmos is also made - they just said it, it seems to me - of astral matter, therefore the total environment of the physical cosmos is repeated in the astral environment, no doubt; there is an astral sky, there are astral stars, for those who observe from the astral, and this is perhaps difficult to understand ... you imagine it difficult because you think it from the physical plane, but remember that the inhabitant of the astral plane, the one who lives on the astral plane with a certain awareness, he finds himself living in a world that is tangible to him, is real, is not made of light or anything; if he sees an astral plant he can touch it, a feel its shape, to see its color, to feel its vibrations and so on; it is completely real as physical matter is real to all of you.

Q - But - sorry - does this astral plant have its counterpart in the physical plane, that is, is it connected to a physical plant, to a tree on Earth?

Of course.

Q - So it is as if it were a parallel world but the same as ours? For example, are we gathered in a circle in a room right now in the astral world?

There are your astral bodies that are present on the astral plane very close to each other and communicate with each other in some way through their energies.

Q - And tonight, when we will separate and each will be in his house, what will our astral bodies be like?

Your astral bodies will no longer communicate in the same way, logically, because there will no longer be the same drive that united them before. Do not confuse, please, between the conscious inhabitants of the astral plane and, instead, the astral bodies of those who are incarnate; they are two different things.

D - Yes, I wanted to ask you this in fact.
Q - So who is embodied is unaware of his astral double? 

It seems to me that, from direct experience, you should definitely know whether you are aware or not!

Q - While someone who is disembodied and lives, like you, on the astral level, is aware of both worlds? 

Yes, yes.

D - Billy, in the meantime I thank you because you have given some beautiful and very interesting explanations. Continuing that speech, when one is asleep ... I have tried many times to reflect on these experiences that one has in the dream but, in my opinion, they are always only experiences closed within ourselves, that is, experiences of one's own projections.

This is a very difficult field to be able to give a general line, because it depends a lot from case to case, from person to person, from evolution to evolution.
There may actually be the person so evolved - and there are not so many as you commonly hear around - who has the ability to be aware even on the astral plane, so he can abandon - relatively "abandon" naturally - the physical body and find himself to travel some area of ​​the astral plane, however, I repeat, is not a very frequent thing.

On the other hand, keep in mind one thing: your main interest as an embodied individual must be and can only be that of experiencing on the physical plane and, therefore, being able to experience on another plane of existence consciously cannot be anything other than a ' exception only, an event that occurs for some particular reason, for some particular teaching. 

It cannot be the rule, otherwise it would be very easy for each of you to tend - if all of you were able to consciously go to the astral plane - to try to abandon the physical plane as much as possible, your pains, your troubles, your problems. and flee to that presumed Eden, the ideal garden, which at times seems to you to be the astral plane. And even here, in this conception that you have of the astral plane, you are wrong very, very much, even if this evening I have felt that some fragment of understanding is starting to interest your minds. The astral plane can certainly be a source of wish fulfillment, but desire is the consequence of something not understood, isn't it? 

So there aren't very many beautiful wishes that can be realized on the astral plane; not only that, but even when they are, for your ego, beautiful and satisfying, many times they hide emotions and sensations that aren't really edifying after all, right?

You know that your selfishness makes you desire, perhaps, a beautiful thing because you want, with this beautiful thing, to show off or appear better than others, not because of the beautiful thing in itself. Now, you remember that astral matter in addition to having this ability to modeling under the pressure of the person, also has the ability to make people's desire and emotions cleaner and more amplified, therefore each of you will feel - being aware on the astral plane - in a much stronger way your emotions and feelings than on the physical plane, therefore a suffering will be a "real" suffering, there will no longer be the physical body to mediate this suffering ; it will be a much more acute suffering, much more painful. You haven't thought about this, have you, dear ones?

D - So it is easy to fall into obsessions, on the astral plane, both positively and negatively; in the sense of both pleasure and pain?

It depends on how you are inside. Fall into who you are, that's the point; without the mediation of the physical body which has its thresholds of acceptance of your reality and therefore, when it is no longer able to accept the emotion that is too strong, for example, it tends to stun you ... in some cases it even makes you faint, the emotion too strong, right?

On the astral plane, however, this is not possible: the emotion will come to you with all its intensity and this is because those who are aware on the astral plane are most of the time because they have now abandoned the physical plane and are summing up the life they have. just completed and, therefore, it is necessary that his experiences, his sensations and his emotions are as clean as possible in order to understand them better, to be able to observe them better.

D - The astral plane is a bit double-edged! 

All things are ambivalent; the physical plane also holds great joys and great sufferings.

Q - But as an incarnate I have desires and emotions and I build castles in the air, here, how do these moments propose themselves to me with respect to the physical and astral planes? 

On the physical plane your castles in the air are not translated most of the time, only dreams and illusions remain; instead on the astral plane, when you complete them when you have your astral senses activated, the very matter tends to form that desire that you dreamed of fulfilling.

D - Sure, I understand. And then, when on the physical plane I express myself with an emotion or a desire, I limit myself to expressing it within the realm of the physical plane, so I do not even remotely touch the astral?

No, no, no. It is not even so. It's not that easy. Remember that the individual who desires on the physical plane has his own astral body which somehow emits vibrations on the astral plane; so that every desire, in some way, passing through the astral body vibrates in the undifferentiated astral matter and tends to modify its form.

D - In fact, that was what I was asking: if it reverberates.

In fact, this happens, and you should have heard more or less reliable testimonies: it happens that individuals who died suddenly and who were very attached to life find themselves not realizing that they are dead and this is because their desire to continue living was so strong that as soon as they passed on the astral plane, matter had already built the world around them in the exact same way as they wanted it to be and, therefore, they continue - I know - to get up, to go to work, to go out with the fiancée and so on, until something is able to move them from that crystallization.

D - Here, sorry, one more question: and the use of the will to fulfill one's desires, to modify one's emotions? 

The use of the will is something that goes beyond what the astral plane is! Will is something - in my opinion - that starts from understanding, and therefore from consciousness; you cannot have the will to do something if you have not understood what you want to do, at least this I think, and therefore it can only be an impulse that comes from consciousness. There may then be the desire, on the other hand, that moves the desire to do something, but it is not a question of will at this point.

Q - Can we meet our loved ones who have already passed away? 

The possibility always exists, especially on the astral plane. As has been explained several times, however, I can tell you that you will certainly meet him but it is not certain that you will truly meet your loved ones; it could really be them who, driven by the same desire, meet with you, but they could also be creatures created by your desire.

D - Precisely on this point: if when one is incarnated he wishes to meet people who are no longer there and when he has passed away he meets them, how can one understand if he really meets them or if they are his illusions? Because I believe there are both of these possibilities.

Both, but not only. The individual who finds himself in this situation does not even ask himself the problem; his desire is satisfied, he is happy to have met them, for him the meeting is real, it is true, and therefore it has no importance then, in the reckoning.

D - Okay, but for those who are aware of this mechanism, however, doubts may arise; can say: "Is it the projection or ..."

My dear, those who are aware of the mechanism do not create illusions, so if they meet a person it is because they are truly meeting them. [...]

D - Sorry Billy, could you please clarify a little: all these forms that are in the astral plane according to the desires of individuals, then there is a separation ... before you started talking about the difference between individuals who are aware on the astral plane and those who are unconsciously, who then create all these dreams, the realization of these desires, but a conscious one - for example like you, I guess - sees passing through all these forms created by the desires of the unaware?

Here it is a bit like… don't forget one of the basic teaching patterns: “so high, so low”. Consider these desires, these projections on the astral plane in a bit the same way as on the physical plane. You subjectivize what you see: you see things in a certain way, people in a certain way, events in a certain way, but the fact that you see them this way does not mean that others see them in the same way because others see them too. they apply their subjectivity to the same event, to the same people, to the same things. 

Now, on the astral plane and I also think about the subsequent ones - eventually, if you will hear me again when I have gone on along the path, I will bring you my personal experience - I think the same thing happens, indeed the same thing happens: what I subjectivize reality yes, it creates a reality, but this reality is my reality, subjective, personal, that the individual who is not involved in my desire, in my emotion from the outside can perceive, perceive if he gets in touch with me, with the same wavelength, with the same vibration, otherwise it sees an entity, an individual, who - how can you say? - Act a bit like in a silent movie for him.

It is very difficult, yes, and it doesn't even really matter that much to understand, all in all, because I don't think it makes you feel better to know this. What is important, in my opinion, to understand is another thing that I had begun to say earlier, that is the fact that whoever wishes, on the physical plane, however, sets in motion, through his astral body, the astral matter and his movement causes shape changes and causes what? A change of vibration within a certain type of astral matter, forming shapes on the astral plane.

Q - What will be useful to whom? 

They could be useful but they could also be harmful because it depends on the type of desire you make, dear ones, do not think too positively on this point, also because you never desire the good and happiness of others as often as you should; very often we wish, when we are embodied, that others are in a worse situation than ours and this desire causes an orientation of the astral vibration, that is, portions of matter near our astral body as we wish, which can somehow affect the astral vibrations of others, thus disturbing.

Q - Is that what is called "thought-form"?

I believe that thought-form is something that is more about the mental plane, although they are suggesting that it is something similar anyway. So, knowing this, that you influence the astral plane by creating these vibrations of desires, these very often negative vibrations that can, yes, to some extent annoy the astral bodies of other embodied persons, but also and above all constitute sources of attraction for entities that seek suffering, for example, for entities that have the same type of desire, who already find matter ready to create their desires on the astral plane, it should make you aware of your responsibility, of your need to try to mitigate your desires , of your having to try to make them simpler and more positive as possible, because a positive astral vibration that is on the astral plane can help another entity that is in difficulty.

D - That is also the complexions?

Of course; It seems to me that just today you were saying about entering an environment and feeling sympathy or dislike for a person: these are astral vibrations that you emit, so if you manage to wish the good for another person it is possible that your bodies astral, through undifferentiated matter which is the conductor of emotions and desires, you are able to communicate your affection, your love, your serenity to another person.

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D - And how is it received, I was asking in fact? 

It is received through an exchange of vibrations. Imagine your astral body vibrating, another individual's astral body vibrating, and the matter between these moving astral bodies; in between is the undifferentiated matter which becomes - as I said before - a conductor of vibration.

Q - Analogous how to transmit the sound? 

It is certainly a similar thing.

D - It just creates a lot of responsibility for us; that is, we already have problems being responsible for our fellow human beings on the physical plane and now we also have to worry about those on the astral who may be affected by our emotions!

My dear, if you are afraid to face responsibility then you shouldn't even have started hearing the speeches of the Guides, because it seems to me that one of the cornerstones of the teaching is that of the responsibility that each of you has for how you live, for how you want, for how sensitive he is, how he thinks and how he acts! And this being responsible not only involves the moment you live, the life you live, the physical plane you live, but it involves everyone around you, everything you are on the other planes of existence and even what you were once. and what you will be, because what you do now affects the unfolding of the whole world.

D - Sorry: the evil eye, the perverse energies, the desire for someone's evil, then, in the same way this upheaval, this desire, this energy goes to reach ends ...

I was expecting this question, which they told me: "Wait for it because it is typical, it is not original at all but it always happens when we talk about these topics but, on the other hand - Georgei told me - it is always better to repeat this argument because it takes away many legends about this thing.

You see, (I hope to be able to explain myself well) in order to really act, the vibrations of desires, of passions - which can then be those set in motion by an alleged evil eye, a negative influence that starts from the astral - to be able to act on another astral body (because it must pass through that path to act on the person, right?) must find a vibratory association, otherwise it cannot pass; therefore it is necessary that this negative vibration starts from a person, sets in motion the disorganized matter of the astral plane, reaches the other astral body and finds in it the same type of vibration more or less strong to which to engage in order to increase it.

Q - But could one modify one's vibration by activating one's mental plane and claiming towards oneself that someone wants him badly or by learning that someone wants him badly and that he is activating a process for causing trouble to happen to him?

We say that the effects exist only when the person makes himself available for it to happen, otherwise there is no witch, magician, entity, person, devil who can do something if you don't want to do it; and it is enough to see even simply on the physical plane how difficult it is to do something through hypnosis, when the patient inwardly does not really want to do it.

D - There is also talk of help from the guardian angels, or in any case of entities, of guiding spirits; beyond what is - let's say - the vibratory interface.

Lo Spirit Guide it is not that you ward off the evil eye or do such things, it simply prevents certain energetic situations from setting in motion when the individual who is guiding, protecting, does not have to go through that experience.

Q - Sorry, Billy, before I was asking you something: the fact that you said that you are aware on the astral plane means that, from the moment of your passage, you are still examining your last life from an emotional point of view (as we said today in the discussion) or does this make sense? 

No, the examination of one's life takes place practically immediately after death. 
Here it is difficult to explain, because there is a discourse of non-parallelism between the times of the various planes of existence; however we say that when the individual dies, leaving the physical body, almost immediately he has the possibility of reviewing his whole life and reviewing it, examining it, "self-judges" himself through what is on the astral plane, what is on the mental plane. Past that point, if he isn't evolved enough, then if he doesn't have an astral body with all senses activated but a "baby" astral body, he falls asleep.

He then unconsciously withdraws into his Akasic body and will then resume incarnating when the time comes. If, on the other hand, it has a certain evolution, a certain awareness, then it will pass for a certain period through the astral plane and then through the mental plane, then finding its own physical body. This much in simple terms; the thing is more complicated.

Q - When an individual has concluded the wheel of births and deaths, and finds himself in the Akasic plane, afterwards he can no longer become aware in the lower planes and therefore lives consciously in the Akasic or is there this possibility?

Unfortunately, I'm not aware of Akasic, they haven't told me about it, so I don't know what to tell you.

D - I would like to ask you one more clarification, which I think can be useful for everyone: we are talking about the non-possibility of evolution (if I understand correctly) within the astral plane, but - from what you have told me - this evolutionary process still takes place. within the astral plane!

I think it's a question of terms. On the physical plane you have all the experiences that can give understanding and it is only on the physical plane that this can happen because the physical body is the most complete: having all its components it offers the most complete experience possible to the individual you are. embodying and that he must understand.

What then happens on the other planes after leaving the physical plane is a - how can you tell? - a to collect the drops of understanding that have been drawn, to recognize them and direct them towards the body of consciousness, therefore it is no longer "making evolution", but it is a compacting of one's own evolution. However, new evolution, greater than that acquired during physical incarnation, is not added.

D - We often hear in the books of encounters with other entities from other planets. There are embodied people who have encountered these entities of light - at least this is how they define them - and a doubt has arisen to me: whether such a thing can actually happen or maybe even there it is a desire, even unconscious perhaps, of the astral plane that makes you want to meet these people

I personally have never met them and I doubt to meet them. I am convinced that most - and I am good - of these encounters are the projection of wishes or illusions or so on. I do not doubt, perhaps, that people are convinced of what they say, but you know very well how easy it is for each of us to delude ourselves when we need some particular element to feel satisfied, gratified, better than others. Billy

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