The human between the astral plane and the Akasic plane [IF31focus]

In the long discussion that you have conducted this evening there were several points that could offer us an opportunity to clear up some confusion on your part, or even to expand for a moment some element of the speeches that we have been carrying out for so long.

One of these points is the one concerning the connection between spirit and matter - if we want to say so - at the time of formation, of the creation of a new individual incarnated on the physical plane.

You see, dear children, what leads you astray, which prevents you from understanding this little detail in the right way is the fact that you continue, despite our teaching, to consider the akasic body as if it were the "doer".

The Akasic body

"The Akasic body (some said) has 'chosen' the body in which it has to experience, the Akasic body has done this, it has done that other" as if it had a sort of will of its own capable of influencing consciously and in the way better and more righteous in what will be his path through the experience of the physical plane. 

Now, certainly the Akasic body is something very important to each of you, this without any shadow of doubt, however, this characteristic of awareness, this characteristic of consciousness, this characteristic of being able to act, of being able to do, becomes true and fully effective in all its greatness only when the individuality has abandoned the physical plane, or rather - to be more precise - only when individuality is no longer incarnated on the physical plane, that is, when the Akasic body has structured all its matter and is completely aware.

Before this moment, the Akasic body can be considered the antithesis of theIo; just as we have said that the ego, in reality, is a projection of the akasic body to the point that, by observing the ego, each of you can come to understand what the akasic body has understood or has not understood, at the same time. the akasic body, by ambivalence - as our friend Scifo would say - is what the ego demonstrates, as they are strictly dependent, linked to each other.

Now when it happens it is going to happen a new incarnation, the Akasic body "does not choose" - even if at some point of evolution he deludes himself perhaps to be able to choose - the body, the place and the time in which the incarnation will take place, but he simply emits a vibration, and this vibration is connected to matter starting, through this vibratory form and its differentiations, to structure the material it encounters.

There is therefore not yet a connection even at the time of conceptionbut there is a vibratory participation on the part of the Akasic body, which puts in this vibration that has emitted all the vibrations that are referable to what he has understood or what he has not understood; and it is this sum of vibrations, their interacting with each other, their exchanging vibrations within the various planes of existence, that gathers the matter of each plane it crosses and begins to shape it, to form it in such a way to have a body that will adapt as much as possible to the most immediate evolutionary needs of understanding the Akasic body. 

Here, then, that the whole period of gestation it will be a period in which these vibrations will continue to act influencing with their movement the constitution of all the elements of the new body that is being created; but the actual connection, the real link, begins when all bodies are ready to experience, when they are separated from the maternal protective environment and therefore the body begins by itself, alone, to live its own experience, immediately colliding with the impact of the physical plane in which it is - often unpleasantly - projected.

Here, it is from this point that the connections of the various bodies begin to be connected: astral, mental and akasic. Was I clear about this? Do you want some clarification? Weather

Q - Does this vibration follow very precise laws, with something quite technical, mathematical?

Ah, this discourse cannot be reduced, it is neither technical nor mathematical! You consider that it is not a question of a vibration, but of an enormous quantity of vibrations, how enormous is the part not yet understood by the Akasic body, and how enormous it is in all its details, in all its subtleties what he instead perhaps he understood up to that moment; and every understanding and every non-understanding emits a vibration that joins or merges and then comes to project itself onto the physical plane, with all that we have explained. 

Q - What I wanted to ask is if there is a reality superior to the akasic that preorders, let's say it regulates the activity of the akasic.

It cannot be otherwise than this. At least there is "That All Is", considering it as the One who designed what happens; the will of what happens is always his, in the end.

D - For this reason, I meant "mathematical" in the higher sense, in the higher sense.

Yes, I don't see the analogy between the two terms, however if it is in this sense, yes.

The astral plane

Another element on which it is worth pausing, creatures, to point the finger at the blunders that, here and there, have been said, is that which concerns the astral plane, this plan so close to you, so tantalizing, that so often you think and believe you have understood but which then, in the end, you will realize in the end that you have not understood much.

The astral plane - and this is a fixed point - is the plane that governs feelings and desires. Beautiful definition, which explains everything and to which you grab yourself readily, ready to flaunt it when someone asks you what the astral plane is, but which, then, does not explain much what happens on the astral plane, true, creatures ?

The individual who dies (this is the part that, who knows why, interests you more than anything else!) We have said that he leaves the physical plane and finds himself on the astral plane, and what does he do on this astral plane? It creates the fulfillment of a desire of him.

First point: some of you have said that on the physical plane there were taste buds and therefore the experience cannot be the same. I say: maybe... but you know that an astral body exists on the astral plane: whoever tells you that it does not have the analogue of the taste buds on the physical plane and that it tastes astral matter in the same way as the physical body tastes physics? Scifo

D - But for this discourse it was said that then life in the physical plane would not make sense, because if in the astral we could reproduce the same sensations, perhaps amplified ... the incarnation would not make sense, we could skip a plane! And then it was said that the embodied individual ...

Was it told by whom?

D - It seems to me also here.

It seems bad to you: something like this had been said but, anyway, not in these terms. And then "it was said" you said ...

D - That when the individual is embodied in the physical plane he has all the bodies connected and, once disembodied, he goes to the afterlife and is missing a body; and, therefore, however pure, astral the sensation may be, it will never be as complete as when he lives incarnate. If not, in fact, we return to the usual discourse: the incarnation makes no sense.

You are mixing two topics! The speech of the physical body and, therefore, of the embodied individual who has a more complete experience because he has all the bodies, refers to the evolution of the individual: since he has all the bodies connected and he possesses all the bodies he can possess, it is in the optimal situation to move forward in evolution, because it has all the elements to be able to understand. Right?

When the individual no longer has the physical body he no longer evolves, he no longer evolves: at the most he draws the strings of what he has understood by experiencing on the physical plane, but he no longer adds new evolution to the one he has already acquired, possibly. Do you agree? So the speech is different: it is not necessary that there is also what the physical body has experienced as a physiological perception to build a satisfying image of one's desire within the astral plane.

Second point: let's think about… a chocolate ice cream. The individual on the physical plane eats a chocolate ice cream: his taste buds savor the taste, his astral body feels excited and satisfied in his desire for ice cream, his mental body says: "Look how good: I'm eating ice cream and not, the worse for him! ”, and away and away and away.

But on the astral plane - in theory - only the sensation of the taste buds is missing because the sensation of eating ice cream (which belongs to the physical plane) is also made up of what? From what also happens on the other planes of existence, therefore from the astral plane and from the mental plane.

Think for a moment ... I know: a sexual desire. In reality, most of the sexual desire usually comes from the astral plane and the mental plane, it is not said that it comes mainly from the physical plane, indeed, many times maybe, the physical matter does not respond to the sexual impulse and this matter will be put in motion when the astral or mental part of the individual acts or reacts. Agree?
So, as you can see, it is not necessary to have a physical body to enjoy ice cream on the astral.

Then someone said: "However, if I manage to build myself a Mont Blanc of ice cream and I start from the slopes to eat this ice cream, and then, out of extreme cunning, as I eat it I do it again, I build myself a dream so big and so beautiful, a satisfaction so pleasant that I will never get out of it, it will never be said that I leave this satisfaction of desire ", right?

So someone came up with the theory (the new theory) of "satiety": when one arrives at the first slope of Mont Blanc, and the astral belly is full enough, one will begin to feel a certain pain (indigestion of astral ice cream) will then say: "Enough, I can't stand more ice cream" and will interrupt the fulfillment of his desire. That's more or less what you were saying, wasn't it?

I say that this is not the case: the abandonment of a dream - because it is such and cannot be anything else - within the astral plane built by the individual to satisfy his desire, it becomes less important, therefore it becomes blurred, therefore a no longer having enough strength to support the creation of that kind of reality with astral matter as it progresses vibration of awareness and understanding it will begin to circulate more fluidly between the astral body and the akasic body.
Therefore it will not be a feeling of satiety (and, therefore, of refusal of contentment) that will give the abandonment of the astral creation, but instead it will be the awareness of what motivated this creation.

In simpler words, even if more inaccurate, this will happen when the experiences that the individual has had on the physical plane are transcribed in the Akasic body - and, of course, everything has its own course for this to happen -; when this is done, it will happen that the realized understanding will have repercussions as a vibration on the lower planes, therefore also on the astral plane; so the individual, having understood, will no longer have that kind of desire and the desire will melt like… ice cream in the sun!

D - But then the understanding also happens on an astral level, there is an evolution even after.

I just said it! When what has been understood within the physical plane is inscribed in the Akasic body, totally, firmly and definitively, then this understanding will emit a vibration that will make it useless for the astral body to have that kind of desire.

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D - It is possible that the instincts, for example of sexuality ... let's say that it is not understood and, therefore, how the undoing of this happens ...

Now I was getting to this point too. The doubt that arises and that our friend has tried to externalize is that, however, it can happen that the impulse so strong, this desire so strong that created the personalized dream within the astral plane, did not have, in the course of physical life, an adequate understanding and that, therefore, the answer of dissolution of that desire does not come from the Akasic body and, therefore, it happens that the individual may find himself a prisoner of this dream which has been created on the astral plane.

You will no doubt not remember it, but we talked about it a long time ago, when we explained that many creatures live on the astral plane in addition to people who leave the physical plane and find themselves temporarily living on the astral plane, and some of them (which we had called "helpers") Are entities of a certain evolution that collaborate with the smooth running of the design, gradually diverting the caged astral body, crystallized in this dream of his, from the dream itself, sneaking into the dream, slipping into they of the elements that, a little at a time, move it from crystallization, until the individual comes out of this cocoon and can continue on his way. This can take a lot of your time, and it can happen that entities stop at this stage for a long time.

D - A curiosity: the entity experiences the fulfillment of desire within sé, does it develop in itself, or does it have an external explanation? Does he really have ice cream, or ...

He's got the ice cream in his hand. So much so that, if you were aware and went on the astral plane with eyes that are able to see the astral matter, you would see this individual who is peacefully eating his ice cream!

D - It seems to me that we talked about it as a result of meeting certain people after death.

Of course, but we had said that if the desire is so strong, it can happen that each of you creates the image of that person who wants to see thanks to the intensity of his desire.

D - Well, it's the image, but isn't this person coming? Or this she just doesn't want to meet you, she is in another plane and she can't ...

It could be an image but it could also be the person himself. However, for you who see the other person, it is as if this were reality: you, towards that person, feel the same love, the same pleasure or, at the very least, the same hate ...

D - But if I realize that it is an illusion I feel bad!

No, you are not disappointed, because you do not realize what is happening: you live the experience so much that you will hardly ever notice what the situation is. Not only that, but the moment you realize that it is an illusion, it would mean that you have overcome the illusion and then you could no longer feel bad about it because you would understand that it was necessary to indicate to you something that you were completing to understand.

Q - Can I ask something about the relationship that would link the astral plane to the physical plane? That is, the feelings and desires realized and developed and expressed on the physical plane, that is, my desires, if I cultivate them, if I nurture them, are realized and realized how? Through a vibration that goes from the astral plane to the akasic and the akasic sends them back to the physical, or is the modality different? Anyway, is such a thing possible?

It depends a lot on where you find the starting point of this discourse: if you start from the physical plane, how I seemed to understand that you were leaving ...

D - From the physical plane to return to the physical plane.

It is not enough to wish for the wish to come true: you cannot, on the physical plane, create the fulfillment of your desire on the astral plane or, better: you on the astral plane also create forms of astral matter under the pressure of your desire, but you are not aware of it and, therefore, to they are of no use to you; they will serve other things that it is not the time to talk about in this area. So, your wish is not a guarantee for the realization of it, if that is what you wanted to know.

D - Yes, but it becomes part of a project of will and eventual success and realization of my intention.

Of course, desire is a necessary push, because otherwise it wouldn't exist, would it? Necessary to push you towards what you want because it is what your akasic body "desires" (in quotation marks), and it is what your akasic body needs, your feeling, or rather: what it "believes in ”That you need your Akasic body, since your Akasic body does not necessarily “know” what it needs! He is going - always remember that! - by trial and error, so your wish could (as it almost always happens, on the other hand) be a wrong wish.

In the end, your Akasic body (we speak in small and very simple terms) when will it stop incarnating? When he realizes that he has no other desire than to identify himself with the Absolute. Everything else will no longer count for anything, it will only be a corollary, as pleasant as you want, but nothing worth being held back, captured, stolen from others, or conquered, or bullied and on and on and on.

D - So also the crystallizations that sometimes occur in the course of life, give certain experiences, and it is not certain that these crystallizations can then dissolve in the course of an existence.

It is not said indeed, perhaps it is more difficult to dissolve them in the course of an existence as an incarnate than when one is on the astral plane or on the mental plane, because in the body of the embodied being, in order to dissolve the crystallization, it is necessary that the suffering and that there is the interaction of other embodied individuals like you, while from within the astral plane or the mental plane there are entities in charge of doing all this; and furthermore on the physical plane you have a much more well protected, well armored structure, as you are the ensemble of "many" bodies and it is more difficult to move from your crystallization if you "do not want to be moved".

D - Explain this concept to me, please: "if one does not want to be moved" ...

See, la will to get out of crystallization arises when - beyond the situation in which it is crystallized - one was still able to understand something.
What did this "something" do? He made it possible to inscribe data on the Akasic body, a small element of feeling; the inscription of this little element to feel what does it do?
It causes a slightly different vibration to be sent back to the physical plane; and there you have to see then if the individual knows how to take advantage of this slight different vibration which can put him in a position to implement a different will and, therefore, come out of crystallization.

However it is all the responsibility of the individual to get out of it or not, it cannot be otherwise, it cannot be made to go out, for example, by an entity that intervenes directly by making it come out of its crystallization: it is not possible for this to happen as it happens on the astral plane because on the astral plane it can come out of a crystallizing dream does not cause damage to its evolutionary possibility as it is no longer evolving, while on the physical plane the entity that would intervene moving the individual out of a situation from which he does not want to move would damage his evolution, because it would prevent him from being himself to understand that he must move.

Q - Yes, but external help can be useful, whatever it is?

Certainly: how many words we say to you, which you do not understand and seem to be thrown to the wind! But each of them is something that serves as a stimulus, as a vibration, to try at times to get you out of stalemate, repetitive or continuous, from which you do not find the strength to react or to get out. This is because we can't shake you and say, “Stop doing this!”, Because it wouldn't be right for you. Scifo

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