Questions about karma and the connection of the astral and mental bodies (k5)

Question - I wanted to know if it is possible to move a cause in an existence and suffer its effect during the same existence.

So let's start with something really complex also because a real classification of the various types of karma has not been made by the Guides: they have spoken in general without then going into all the particular cases that exist in karma because, you see, when Guides come to talk about the actual teaching, clearly they are forced to generalize as much as possible, while you must remember that the general discourse is one thing, but then there are always special cases. And there are so many that, in reality, as the Guides say, we can speak of a particular case for each existence, for each individuality.

Unfortunately for a factor of understanding, of logic, to carry on the teaching it is necessary, instead, to create a general theory to which everyone can refer, otherwise, by giving too much particularity, it would end up creating an even greater confusion than what already exists. it creates with the teaching so generalized.
Do you understand this?

So returning to our speech, we can - in principle - talk about two primary types of karma.
- The karma that accumulates and that there is no possibility of understanding quickly, for which there is a need to move to understanding through post-death reflection,
- And karma which can be understood quite immediately through the awareness of individuality already within the physical plane, therefore with the help of an astral body, a mental body, an Akasic body well structured and ready to understand.

Now, clearly, when the individuality does not have this immediate possibility of understanding a mistake made, here is that the karma moved certainly comes to recur in subsequent lives; it need not be immediately in the next life, but it reappears when individuality has the possibility of understanding, and this possibility can manifest itself after several lifetimes, not in the next life, keep this in mind.
So the karmas that you have accumulated in previous lives and that you are now experiencing do not necessarily go back to your incarnation immediately preceding the one you are living.

Then there are those karmas that are usually more pennies and that need a smaller understanding: this type of karma can be understood in this way already in the course of life, they can be resolved immediately, in short.
It is also difficult to give an example, because these are very common things; for example, having already understood to a large extent what altruism can be, helping others for example, and, in a specific situation, not helping a person who asks for help; well, here a not big karma accumulates because the understanding, for the most part there has already been, it is a light deepening of this understanding, of a particular case that demonstrates a tangled that evidently has not been fully understood, then What happens?
It happens that existence, in the course of life itself, re-proposes the same experience over and over again, therefore the same type of possibility of understanding, until the individual, with all probability, understands what there was to understand.
So then this karma that arose in the same life, is resolved after some time, during the incarnation itself.

Let's take an example on your skin, or rather on the skin of the instruments: in recent years a certain situation has always reappeared, it has repeatedly reappeared, namely the fact that many people, at some point, for a reason or for the other, they "took advantage" of them, or tried to do so.

Now, clearly, it is a karma here, a karma that has been accumulated over and over again. Now suppose - for example, which is not true in their case - that they have accumulated this karma during this lifetime; here at some point if they, as it seems to be happening, understand what they are wrong with people, certainly karma will never show up again.

To explain all this, in reality, it is not even all that necessary to talk about karma, is it? It is enough to know a little bit of petty psychology and to understand that, even without knowing the theories of the masters, small karma can be understood from a simply psychological point of view.

In the individual, when he internally understands that certain actions can cause damage to himself and to others, there is a reaction, a process, an evolution of certain internal complexes, whereby his behavior will change and, therefore, in the face of same situations will act differently; and, therefore, there will no longer be an action that will cause karma.
In this case the karma, psychologically, can be interpreted simply as a sort of "complex" on the part of the individual, a kind of internal brake.
In this sense, the simple karma accumulated over the course of a life can be interpreted: as an inner limitation of the individual who cannot overcome certain limits (which psychology says psychological but which, in reality, go back to a succession of causes and effects due to his conscience, his awareness, his understanding and therefore his feel).

Q - Is there no possibility to distinguish whether the karma we are experiencing now has been moved in this existence or in a previous life?

I would say that, except for exceptional and rare cases in which it is necessary for the individual to realize what was one of the first origins of his karma, this awareness, this knowledge of the origin of karma is not there, and it is also it is right - all things considered - that it is not due to the usual discourse that knowing how much has moved in previous lives can induce the individual who is not ready, not evolved, to get stuck in his actions. Remember, however, that the important point is always not the action, but the intention with which something is done.

D - Then the fact - for example - that our connection with the Akasic body happens from 20 to 30 years, you have always said ...

This here is a point where many fall into error. We have stated that yes complete docking, just as we have stated that the astral body completes its attachment to the physical body within the first seven years, the mental body within the fourteen years… and so on, all this ladder.
In reality, the connection is there from the beginning, it is not that it does not exist, but it is the connections that end up closing through the experiences that occur for the individual in those years.

We take theexample of the connection of the astral body: clearly when the individual is born he has his astral body, his astral matter is still disorganized, but it is already joined in some way to the physical body, on this we agree?
What happens now? This astral body must become operative, a bit like the physical body which over time must become capable of expressing the individual, right? Then through the instinctive and sentimental life, of desire of the little child, experiences arrive: the experience of maternal love or paternal love, of games and so on, of colors, impressions, noises, sounds that act on sensory level and cause repercussions within the astral body.
These repercussions make it possible to structure this matter, to organize it in such a way that the astral body is completed, structured in its best way.
And it is precisely during the first seven years that this almost complete structuring takes place, I say almost complete because then, clearly, with the passing of time there are the final touches, it is not that the astral body is never completely organized, right?

It is a bit like your physical body, to continue the analogy, which certainly, after the age of development, of physical maturation, while remaining in principle quite similar, but softens, changes, a little to the once again it continues to evolve and change; the same happens for the astral body, for the mental body and the Akasic body, always under the pressure of experiences.

Just as the matters taken up in the physical body, accidents, illnesses and so on, modify the physical body, in the same way experiences, feelings, desires, emotions, modify the astral body, thoughts modify the mental body and understanding, on the other hand, modifies the Akasic body.

I understand your difficulties, because really seeing the complete picture of all these things is not easy, but if you get used to observing things from various points of view, you will also be able to create those connections between the concepts that will then make it easier for you to understanding.

[…] What happens in the first 7 years? It happens that the astral body organizes itself, structures itself, forms itself completely, unites completely through all those various points of contact with the physical body in order to structure itself, unite with the physical body. Agree? But what happens at the same time?

It happens that the mental body also continues its connection, it is not that it begins from the seventh year onwards. How the Akasic body is structured and hooked at the same time.
It is certainly a much more complex thing, and it will take longer, depending on how much finer the body is being organized and reunited with the physical body.
So they work at the same time, only 90% of the connection happens for the first body by the age of seven and for the mental body by the age of fourteen and so on.


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4 comments on “Questions on karma and the connection of the astral and mental bodies (k5)”

  1. A question about intention and action: it happens to me, for example, that I don't feel like going to visit my mother that day, but I go there. Not only do I go there, but when I come back I am happy to have gone ... in this case the initial intention prevails over everything else anyway?

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  2. It seems to me that it is a clear example of the prevalence of the akasic thrust over the ego.
    Of course, at the beginning the ego seems stronger but a little effort of the will is enough to override it and, in this case, I believe that the influence of social archetypes that invite a child to take care of parents is useful (perhaps even under the thrust of fear of the judgment of others!).

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