Before going into the merits, however, I would like to observe this for a moment Io, that is, I would like to go in search of the ego along the evolutionary path of an individuality, of an individual, and go through the stages ofevolution individual to see if the ego can be recognized in the first wave of evolution and is embodied within the realm mineral.
Well, creatures, it does not seem necessary to me to spend many words to say that it is not possible to find traces of the Ego in the individual embodied at this evolutionary stage; you know, in fact, that the ego is nothing other than the resultant of the astral and mental body of the individual, that is, resulting from the dynamics between these two bodies and what the physical body, in some way, undergoes or acts within the physical world.
Now, clearly, it is evident from the table that I have presented to you on this subject, that the individual embodied in the mineral kingdom possesses only a very rudimentary, organized astral body, that is, only in a very small part, even if clearly it is being structured better and better. as the incarnations follow one another.
If it were possible to translate in an understandable way what goes through the stony head of the mineral, this would be in the form of "heat", "cold", "rain", "wind", and on and on and on, then simply as observations of something that happens without, basically, neither reasoning nor emotional perception, and therefore, I repeat, that at this evolutionary stage of the individual there is not, and cannot be, an I as you have understood it from when we came to talk to each other.
As a logical and irrefutable consequence, the same discourse, almost equal, can be brought for the individual embodied to the stage vegetable; since this individual has a more structured astral body than he had in the course of the many mineral incarnations, however if it were possible to bring back as thoughts what goes through the mind to the chlorophyll of the vegetable, you could feel "I feel hot", "I feel cold ”,“ I feel rain ”,“ I feel wind ”, and away and away and away.
Therefore even in this stage the ego does not exist and cannot exist.
Those of you who love the most animals, almost always tend to personalize them, to humanize them, to see them not as animals, but as extensions of human beings, sometimes even as extensions of themselves, often exchanging the indicative behavior typical of animals with a sense of personality; in reality, even for what concerns the individual embodied within the animal world, it can be said that there is no ego; this even if the astral body, in this case, is quite well organized and structured, the mental body only then begins to be structured, it is only the first phase of structuring and therefore the ego is not yet formed, but there is the first larvae perceive, the first difference between me and non-me.
In fact, if you could enter the animal's mind you could feel his thoughts such as: “I'm hungry”, “I'm thirsty”, “I'm cold”, “I'm hot”: the ego is already there, a very hidden perception of oneself and others.
However, I repeat, even for what concerns the incarnation within the animal world, it is not possible to speak of a real ego.
The ego, on the other hand, exists, it appears when the individual arrives at the incarnation human; the individual who reaches human incarnation, in fact, possesses an astral body, now very well structured, a mental body, in turn organized in a more or less uniform and complex way, therefore the exchanges between these two bodies and the physical body are continuous and such as to allow a distinction to be made, to allow to be aware of the separation between oneself and the world outside oneself. That is, it allows us to realize that he is, and the world around him is, but in a different way from himself.
As we have said, this perception, this sense of separativeness between the individual and the external world, in reality, is itself an illusion, because in order to proceed in evolution the individual must also go beyond the ego, and to understand that there is no I and no-I, but it is part of a single whole in which there are no opposing parts, but there are parts that complement each other.
So this is where I intended to arrive when I stated, at the beginning, that we can only truly speak of I when the individual is embodied as a human being.
Now that we have followed the path of the individual, up to his constitution of an I, we come to all of you and we are looking for that we indicate this I that each of you, to a greater or lesser extent, more or less strongly, possesses. .
And we watch you, we see you struggling with yourself, we see you suffer, because you can't be better than what you are; sometimes, we see you arguing with others, we see you getting angry, we see you looking in the mirror and saying to you: “But why can't I be different?”; we hear you thinking: “I am like that, but I know what the goal is and I want to get there at all costs, and if I want, I can!”.
Well, creatures, this intention of yours does you honor, we are happy that in each of you there is at least this intention, this drive to overcome your selfishness, this attempt to go beyond what you show daily, this search for spirituality, for altruism, of love, this "I want very strongly I want" that you sometimes pursue, sometimes you forget.
However, even if, I repeat, this is already a first step that will lead to the next steps, as necessary as this first step is, I would like to state, tonight, something that could confuse, upset and disorient you.
In fact, this evening, creatures, I want to get to tell you that all your efforts, all your moments of repression, all your research, in reality, are of no use at all.
I want to tell you that your search for the overcoming of the ego will not lead you to any result.
Dear us, the wheel has jumped!
No creatures, your friend Scifo this evening is not ranting because he no longer knows what to say, but the speech he is trying to make is based on solid, safe and not random foundations as some of you might even seem; let's see if I can explain with a few words what I mean by what I have just stated.
The very fact that you want to overcome something means that you make an effort, that you do violence to yourself to overcome it, and I guarantee you that the very fact of doing violence to yourself cannot lead you to overcome the thing, whatever it is; it may perhaps help you in other ways, it may perhaps prevent you from hurting others, from harming, from not revealing certain external aspects of yours, but internally you make violence to yourselves creatures and this does not serve to make you reach love, altruism, non-separativeness, and therefore to overcome selfishness. Scifo
Thus, dearest children, from the things that have been said to you this evening, we understand that individuality starts from a condition of non-ego to arrive at discovering the ego, to finally return to a new condition of non-ego; but if the first condition was of total unconsciousness, the second, the goal of evolution itself, is of total consciousness.
So when we talk to you about the constitution of self-awareness, we mean to talk about the overcoming, yes, of the ego, of identifying oneself, certainly, with all the other brothers, of feeling all the other brothers equal to themselves, but in total awareness.
When this condition is reached, and in this way the Akasic body is totally constituted, the individual no longer needs to incarnate, he abandons, as we usually say, the wheel of births and deaths, but evolution does not necessarily continue.
In fact it does not end there: the individuality, the individual, the one who has experienced through the various lives and has conquered his awareness by finding the true essence of his own being, continues his evolution on other planes; plans that we generally call spiritual plans.
This new form of evolution will inevitably lead him to union with the Whole, to identification with God, identification that does not mean total annihilation, because the individual who unites himself with God, who enters into communication with God, is aware of what he was, he is totally aware of what his brothers have been and yet he can feel them as if they were himself. fabius
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In fact, this evening, creatures, I want to get to tell you that all your efforts, all your moments of repression, all your research, in reality, are useless. "
This morning I did zazen after a long time not doing it.
This is something I have heard before but I struggle to understand that this neutral space will not help me during the day to cultivate a certain alignment.
Alessandro: zazen will help you, and how.
The expression you are referring to must be properly interpreted: I would advise you to take it to one of the next meetings ..
It seems to me that what Fabius says in the last lines of the post clarifies the sense of unity in the upper floors. I didn't have this clarity. Thanks to the Guides for the love they show us.
And is it not perhaps the whole meaning of the journey, the why of all these human lives, the attempt to remain connected with a Consciousness which, with all the shortcomings it may have, remains the instrument through which to pass for unification?
And if we are clogged with a thousand identifications and thoughts that we feed without interruption, how can we hear the voice of Consciousness that usually does not scream but whispers?
And when guides warn us against wasting entire lives, what do they mean?
Yes, if there is space I will take him to one of the next meetings.
I wrote the second post this morning, believing I had sent it, and only then did I read your answer. It was not meant to be an insistence on the matter.
x Alexander
"And is it not perhaps the whole meaning of the journey, the why of all these human lives, the attempt to remain connected with a Consciousness which, with all the shortcomings it may have, remains the instrument through which to pass for unification?"
What you say is undoubtedly true but it requires the will and the ability to know how to live life without losing sight of the responses to our actions that come from the individual conscience, because only in this way can we actively collaborate with the evolutionary impulses we receive, favoring the creation of those vibrational paths that allow the Akasic body to acquire elements of understanding.
"And if we are clogged with a thousand identifications and thoughts that we feed without interruption, how can we hear the voice of Consciousness which usually does not scream but whispers?"
Why don't you scream but whisper? Because its task is not to give us definitive solutions but to suggest paths and possibilities for observation, while our task as embodied is to be active and reactive in the face of the experiences that arise, always with the aim of providing elements to the conscience for its further structuring. And doing this involves finding the right balance between "being in the world" and trying to listen to the whispers that come to us, giving the right times to both paths.
"And when the guides warn us against wasting entire lives, what do they mean?"
I believe that they intend to remind us that we continually have the possibility to understand, if we really want to do it without being led by the hand only by the I.
As for "wasting whole lives", I consider it an extremism used to spur us on and induce us not to rest on our laurels, which, unfortunately, we are often inclined to do.
I join the comments to say that often the Guides seem extreme, they express extreme concepts, displace and maybe put in crisis, I think they serve to destabilize, shake, awaken from torpor, and eradicate many spiritual certainties. Many teachers, even incarnate ones, have often done this work, precisely to prevent minds from making a sort of travel program of the spiritual Path.
"... it needs the will and the ability to know how to live life without losing sight of the responses to our actions that come from the individual conscience, because only in this way can we actively collaborate with the evolutionary impulses we receive, favoring the creation of those vibrational paths that allow to the Akasic body to acquire elements of understanding. "
Absolutely.
Being able to act with a listening more or less aligned with a certain feeling leads to action more often than it seems, in my experience more than an action that occurs when the preponderance of emotions and mind is greater. There the character trait takes over, a certain automatism reigns.
On the contrary, the responses to actions resulting from a certain alignment are increasingly articulated and have more nuances to decipher and involve more data collection work and often greater courage in putting them into effect.
They have a freshness and beauty of their own when they manifest.
Personally, the more the seasons pass, the less I have patience with a certain type of affirmation, because they probably act as a mirror to me, when they come from a long-established mental recitation, always the same, where identifications are the warm and comfortable place from which they come.
Clear message. Thank you!
I am struck by several things about this post:
- the response of the mineral to the stresses of atmospheric phenomena: simply "rain", "wind" ... without any connotations
- the unique whole, in which the parties do not oppose each other but are complementary to each other
- the issue of effort, which I agree to investigate
Thanks to everyone and in particular to Gianfranco for the clarifications.
Clear message for me too.
I have often reflected on the topic raised by Alessandro and I am happy that it will be deepened. However, I would like to present here some reflections, which have no claim to explain what Scifo said, but they want to be further points of discussion for the deepening.
It seems to me that effort in the spiritual field can have a different quality.
- For example, it can arise from the desire to improve one's "image" of oneself and therefore from a competitive drive, often assuming the characteristics of self-violence and repression. Even if the apparent motive is egoic, it can have usefulness on other planes, for example on the strengthening of the will, but not directly on the expansion of one's capacity to love, which as we know is the fruit of the data acquired by the conscience through the experience. However this disposition in my opinion can lead to a distorted vision of oneself, it can lead to fall into the mistake of considering oneself more evolved than one is, simply because spiritual practice is made to coincide with the state of one's feeling;
- or the effort can be dictated by the desire for unification in a more conscious way than in the first case, because it is freer from the conditioning of identity. Here I would define effort as a constant disposition to attention, to vigilance, that attention and that vigilance that help us in disconnection, in the moments in which we are questioned in our identifications. The will that we put in place during the practice, then helps us during the day to disconnect more easily and therefore to climb the mountain so as not to fall into the role of the victim.
As we have said several times, this does not make us progress faster than those who struggle to identify with their emotions and their mental recitals, but it allows us to live with a lower rate of suffering and greater sensitivity.