Philosophical teaching 15
For several years we have been pointing out, when we talk to you aboutIo, and how you have to look for it, observe it to be able to go beyond.
But before entering into the merits, I would like to go in search of the ego along the individual evolutionary path, to see if, in the various stages, the ego can be recognized: first of all, let's investigate the mineral kingdom.
It does not seem necessary to me to spend many words to say that it is not possible to find traces of the ego in the individual embodied at this evolutionary stage; you know, in fact, that the ego is nothing other than the resultant of the astral and mental body of the individual in their relationship with the physical body and with what it undergoes or acts within the physical world.
Now, it is evident that the individual embodied in the mineral kingdom possesses only a very rudimentary, organized astral body, that is, only in a very minimal part, even if clearly it is being structured better and better as the incarnations follow one another.
If it were possible to translate in an understandable way what goes through the stony head of the mineral, this would be in the form of "heat", "cold", "rain", "wind", and on and on and on, therefore simply as observations of something that happens without, basically, neither reasoning nor emotional perception, and therefore, I repeat, that at this evolutionary stage of the individual there is and cannot be an I as you have understood it since we are come to talk to each other.
As a logical and irrefutable consequence, the same discourse, almost equal, can be brought for the individual embodied in the vegetal stage; since this individual has a more structured astral body than he had in the course of the many mineral incarnations, however if it were possible to bring back as thoughts what goes through the mind to the chlorophyll of the vegetable, you could feel "I feel hot", "I feel cold ”,“ I feel rain ”,“ I feel wind ”, and away and away and away.
Therefore even in this stage the ego does not exist and cannot exist.
Those of you who love animals most almost always tend to personalize them, to humanize them, to see them not as animals, but as extensions of human beings, sometimes even as extensions of themselves, often exchanging the indicative behavior typical of animals with a sense of personality; in reality, even as regards the individual embodied within the animal world, it can be said that there is no ego; this even if the astral body, in this case, is quite well organized and structured, the mental body only then begins to be structured, it is only in the first phase of structuring, and therefore the ego is not yet formed, but there is the first larvae to perceive, the first difference between me and non-me.
In fact, if you could enter the animal's mind you could feel his thoughts such as: "I'm hungry", "I'm thirsty", "I'm cold", "I'm hot"; So the ego is already there: a very hidden perception of oneself and others.
However, I repeat, even for what concerns the incarnation within the animal world, it is not possible to speak of a real ego.
The ego, on the other hand, exists, appears when the individual reaches the human incarnation; the individual who reaches this in fact possesses an astral body, now very well structured, a mental body, in turn organized in a more or less uniform and complex way, therefore the exchanges between these two bodies and the physical body are continuous and such to allow you to make a distinction, to allow you to be aware of the separation between yourself and the world outside yourself.
That is, it allows us to realize that he is, and the world around him is but in a different way from himself.
As we have said, this perception, this sense of separateness between the individual and the external world, in reality, is itself an illusion, because in order to proceed in theevolution the individual must also come to go beyond the ego, and to understand that there is no I and no-I, but is part of a single whole, in which there are no opposing parts, but parts that complement each other.
So this is where I intended to arrive when I stated, at the beginning, that we can only truly speak of I when the individual is embodied as a human being.
Now that we have followed the path of the individual until his constitution of an I, we come to all of you and to the search that we indicate to you of this I that each of you, to a greater or lesser extent, more or less strong, possesses.
And we watch you, we see you struggling with yourself, we see you suffer, because you can't be better than what you are; sometimes, we see you arguing with others, we see you getting angry, we see you looking in the mirror and saying: "But why can't I be different?". We hear you thinking: “I am like this, but I know what the goal is and I want to arrive at all costs, and if I want, I can!”.
Well, creatures, this intention of yours does you honor, we are happy that in each of you there is at least this intention, this drive to overcome your selfishness, this attempt to go beyond what you show daily, this search for spirituality, for altruism, of love, this "I want very strongly I want" that you sometimes pursue, sometimes you forget.
However, even if, I repeat, this is already a first step that will lead to the next steps, as necessary as this first step, I would like to state, tonight, something that could confuse, upset and disorient you.
In fact, this evening, creatures, I want to get to tell you that all your efforts, all your moments of repression, all your research, in reality, are of no use at all.
I want to tell you that your search for the overcoming of the ego will not lead you to any result.
Dear us, the wheel has jumped!
No creatures, your friend Scifo this evening is not ranting because he no longer knows what to say, but the discourse he is trying to make is based on solid, safe and not random foundations as some of you might even seem; let's see if I can explain with a few words what I mean by what I have just stated.
The very fact that you want to overcome something means that you force yourself, that you do violence to yourself to overcome it, and I guarantee you that the very fact of doing violence to yourself cannot lead you to overcome the thing, whatever it is; it may perhaps help you in other ways, it may perhaps prevent you from harming others, from harming, from not revealing certain inner aspects of yours, but if you do violence to yourselves this does not help to make you reach love, altruism, non-separativeness, and therefore to overcome selfishness. Scifo
Thus, dearest children, from the things that have been said to you, we understand that individuality starts from a condition of non-ego to rediscover, discover the ego, to finally return to a new condition of non-ego; but if the first condition was of total unconsciousness, the second, the goal of evolution itself, is of total consciousness.
So when we speak to you of the constitution of self-awareness, we mean to speak to you of overcoming the ego, of identifying with all the other brothers, of feeling all the other brothers equal to themselves, but in total awareness.
When this condition is reached, and in this way the Akasic body is totally constituted, the individual no longer needs to incarnate, it abandons, as it is usually said, the wheel of births and deaths, but evolution does not necessarily continue.
In fact it does not end there: the individuality, the individual, the one who has experienced through the various lives, and has conquered his own awareness by rediscovering the true essence of his own being, it continues its evolution on other planes; plans that we generally call spiritual plans.
This new form of evolution will inevitably lead him to union with the Whole, to identification with God, identification that does not mean total annihilation, because the individual who unites himself with God, who enters into communication with God, is aware of what he was, he is totally aware of what his brothers have been, yet he can feel them as if they were himself. fabius
This post clarifies and comforts me on what is the path of each one. I have always imagined that whatever the understanding process to be carried out, it is characterized by the same trajectory. If I had to explain in graphic form what I would like to say, I could draw a circle. The individual, represented by the dot that will delineate the trajectory, starts from a point, the path will lead him to move away gradually, but not on a straight line, but rather circular. At some point he will rejoin the starting point. All the experience gained along the way will have been useful to make us aware of what was already there, but of which we were not aware.
“The individual who unites himself with God, who enters into communication with God, is aware of what he has been, is totally aware of what his brothers have been, yet manages to feel them as if they were himself. "Fabius
This horizon can give breath to our sometimes troubled progress. It is certainly a strong call to abandon judgment, a supreme illusion
Beautiful! This enclosure indicates the horizon, the ultimate goal of existence.
With this rainy weather I can linger a few more lines.
The feeling is that of being dragged towards it "This new form of evolution will inevitably lead him to union with the Whole, to identification with God .." when I see these lamps in the bush.
For this correspondence of hearing I ask for help with a word that expresses this. Maybe then it is only a mental body interwoven with an astral body, I would like to identify it, what are the threads that indicate the origin of this sensation, when you hear inside saying 'yes, that's it'?
I then focus on two other aspects.
The ego mechanism that seemed to me explained so well, clear and simple and was not so clear to me.
Then on the will to overcome the ego on efforts and violence. On not doing violence to myself it was consolidated, in alternating phases at times, mitigated by a responsability that I feel towards others in order not to bring pain, but it was consolidated, on overcoming the ego I believed that a certain effort was helpful, instead perhaps it is useless . When I read this line I got a laugh even though I had heard it several times from the beginning if I think about how much I have been struggling in so many years for the transformation of my thought patterns and to let air into those rooms clean ..
But this laugh is not one of regret for all those tough years in which I threw away, I was determined and at that time necessary for me .. 🙂
Perhaps, and this is a reflection that captures me at this moment, certain motions of intemperance, when I get impatient in the face of an inertia that I badly tolerate on the front of the path towards understanding, (of which I am not at all exempt) from this period of life where I started to see colors but where I also got a great ass to see aspects of me that caused great pain: deaf, without excuses, sometimes tearing, but which I survived and maybe something in transformed me ..
To Alessandro: In fact, as we have said many times, the transformation does not happen by will, but by acquired understanding.
So, as Scifo affirms, it is certainly not necessary to use violence to overcome something, but we must be clear about this: the will that we do not apply to overcome a limit by fighting it, we activate it instead to observe it, to become aware of it.
With experience, that limit will be overcome by virtue of an understanding that will come, but, it should be noted, we will have done our part by directing the will towards the fullest possible use of awareness.
Outside this logic, there is a fatalism that is not what Scifo intends to feed.
I want to specify 'With this rainy weather I can linger a few more lines.'
Not that these comments, reflections, this telling me, are secondary to the work, but that this time dilated by the rain allows more articulated reflections than another type of day ..
x Alexander
"... what are the threads that indicate the origin of this sensation, when you hear inside saying 'yes, that's it'?"
I believe that there is only one possible answer to what you are asking, and that is the feeling and its gradual structuring thanks to the broadening of the understanding obtained by facing the experiences in the course of life.
As you also point out, it is something that you feel inside (and that at times to our examination it can even appear devoid of sense and rational motivations) because the astral and mental bodies catch only pale reflections of what is the real feeling of the embodied individual and are strongly limited and conditioned by what is their constitution parametrized on the experiences that everyone needs to face in the course of life. We must remember that we are not that I that accompanies us in the course of life but that it is and remains, however, only a partial expression of our true feeling. And this is what the Guides mean. I believe . when they tell us that we are actually better than we appear on the physical plane!
Thanks, very clear and also simple. All that remains is to put it into practice! ...
Thank you!
“… But if you do violence to yourselves this does not serve to make you reach love, altruism, non-separativeness, and therefore to overcome selfishness. Scifo "
Words that actually produce that announced upheaval. I take the example of the couple. If one didn't do a little violence, I think sexual betrayal would be more widespread. Getting in a bit of violence serves to cultivate a greater, fuller love, or so I tell it to myself. It is used to overcome selfishness, to go beyond the ego that would perhaps want further satisfactions and protect the us, then go beyond the ego.
Dunno, maybe my analytical skills don't go to the bottom but while I take the broad breath of the post, I also have the feeling that something is not right or maybe some resistance.
However, I will try to keep myself exposed to the radiation from the post.
What you are talking about, Samuele, is what each of us works every day in his daily life through knowing and becoming aware that sometimes flourish in understanding.
It is what in the Path we call Work in the Workshop.
What Scifo means, in my opinion, is that this work does not serve to overcome selfishness, but it certainly makes us know it, it makes us aware of it and therefore creates the basis for the evolution that occurs with understanding.
The person can say: "I want to overcome selfishness" and this is a good purpose but, in itself, it does not mean much: it is crucial that he becomes aware of the form that his selfishness takes and does not feed it.
Likewise, the person who wishes to love puts on the dress of love, but does not become one: he must see what prevents him from loving and then love will manifest itself. This is because love was already there. As you know, love does not create us, it turns out, the veils that hide it are removed.
Selfishness is the child of non-knowledge and non-awareness; he is the son of the Ego, the ghost of a ghost: knowing and becoming aware reveals the illusion to us and what is beyond his veil appears.
So you don't need to be violent to love or not to be selfish, let's go back to Scifo, you need to know the absence of love and the presence of selfishness, become aware of them and let them go, knowing that we will overcome those states when we understand what prevents us. to fully experience love and altruism.
We speak of structuring, recognition and overcoming of the ego. Concepts ruminated over and over, understood with the mind, relatively understood. What makes me think most is the idea that an illusory self conceives the desire and the idea of surpassing itself. Surely the phrase is not expressed in the appropriate terms, because we are not talking about a simple self but a complex individuality, in which the self is only a reflection of the interaction between the "spiritual" bodies and the denser ones, physical, emotional, mental . From what I am able to see, starting from self-observation, there is a longing that proceeds from feeling, which carries within itself if not full awareness at least a sort of unconscious memory of the unity that at times reveals itself , and which is filtered by the "lower" bodies. This desire to overcome the ego seems to me a mixture of an aspiration that proceeds from thrusts that come from the higher bodies (the path from ego to love) and at the same time of voluntarism, fruit of dissatisfaction, suffering and in substance of ' inability to accept the implications of the incarnation.
x Samuel
The point we are talking about can be observed from two different perspectives: the usefulness of doing violence to oneself with respect to one's own evolution and the usefulness of doing violence to oneself in the consequences that there may be in the conduct of life in progress.
From the personal evolutionary point of view it seems to me quite clear that doing violence to oneself does not solve the problems of selfishness that concern us, doing this does not widen the feeling because the basic misunderstanding is not resolved, but silenced.
On the other hand, the perspective is different in the other case: doing violence to oneself by forcing one's ego within self-imposed limits can avoid harming others and help to live in a less contrasted way. So I believe that a "violence" of this type is useful and necessary in the course of life, as long as it is carried out without asking oneself for efforts that go beyond one's possibilities of implementation, otherwise, if taken or later, there will be less easily controllable reactions.