Our Carlo has a dilemma, because he asks himself: "Io I butted into an egg, I messed around and now I ask myself: 'Did I do it because I wanted it, did they condition me to do it, or was it a coincidence?' ".
Basically I would say that, more than a dilemma, it was a trilemma! Let us rule out, dear ones, that it could be a case. Let's see for a moment, in your opinion, of the other two possibilities which is the most possible.
D - It was affected by vibrations.
D - He wanted it.
D - They can be both.
Well, I would say that "he wanted it" - in my opinion - would be to give a conscience to the spermatozoon and, as for that, also to the egg (as you also did in the course of the discussion when confused, I imagine, you asserted that the ovulo, thanks to this vibration, gets in touch with "Carlo" and tells him when it's time to "get under").
But the egg does not do any of this: the egg has no intention of doing anything, he lives his life as an egg, quiet, he knows that once a month he has to take a walk he goes and goes, he gets to that point and says: "Let's see what happens"; he doesn't even know what's going to happen.
In reality, the one who does everything is that vibratory field that is placed around it, and this - I must acknowledge it - you understood, even if you then interpreted it as being made to move by the egg which, in reality, moves absolutely nothing.
This vibratory field, when it comes to form around the ovum, is composed of a certain type of vibrations which, as you know, move, they don't stay still, otherwise they wouldn't be vibrations; but it's not that they move around the ovum, they move through the matter that makes up these vibrations and, therefore, they propagate around and, in propagating around, they reach the army of sperm and here is the signal for the "Carlo" that his time has come. Then the "Carlo" will strengthen a bit, will try to shoulder his way through the others, will say: "I must be there too" and leave, without needing to disturb the chakras as you tried to do during the discussion .
Q - This beyond the distance between the two individuals?
One thing you did not ask, which would have been interesting and, perhaps, important to understand this discourse: when is there this vibration? When is it implemented? But this vibration is not put into action centuries and centuries before, it is put into action just before the crime takes place, therefore in principle, when the two people, the two "healthy carriers" let's say this ... let's hope, at least, for the unborn !, they are close enough to feel the influence of these vibrations.
Q - Does the transmission take place physically, through the physical plane?
It is a vibration that involves more than one plane. On the other hand you know very well, my dear, that a vibration means movement of matter and, if the vibration moves the physical matter, together with the physical matter it necessarily also moves the astral, the mental and the akasic.
Q - Does "Carlo" have his vibratory halo too?
Eh, we claim the right of the male like this!
D - No, I wanted to understand if it was a meeting of vibrations because ...
But "Carlo" has its own vibration, which as we have said is in tune, it works attractively towards the ovum, just as that of the ovum works attractively towards it.
D - So it's really "Carlo" ... it was a little bit the difference we had made before.
Yes, of course, there are no more "Carli", there is no battalion of Carli, there is only one "Carlo" and this "Carlo" is conditioned by the vibration. This vibration not only ensnares him, but while it ensnares it not only ensnares him but also induces the changes inside the ovum because, if there were not those changes, the ovum would not let “Carlo” pass.
Q - So does everything start from the akasic of the new individuality?
Certainly.
D - That is, it is not like the second hypothesis that was made, that the akasic permeates the egg and the egg "does a whistle to Carlo?"
Absolutely no. The akasic makes contact with the egg through this vibration and then, somehow, according to laws (actually physiological, in the end), puts in place, causes the process to take place according to the normal laws behind it. to this type of process.
D - Anyway it is the egg that calls "Carlo".
Well no!
D - I don't understand the difference, then.
The egg stands there and waits. It is the vibration.
D - Yes, the vibration of the egg.
Not of the egg: the vibration "around" the egg, because it does not belong to the egg; so much so that when fertilization occurs, what does the vibration do? Have you ever wondered? Does it disappear or stay?
D - It will disappear.
D - Oh no, there is always vibration.
What happen? You see how many interesting things there are to say if one thinks about it for a moment! We said that the egg has its own egg-like vibration, this we said last time, otherwise it wouldn't even be an egg.
The sperm carries with sé its vibration and, when the spermatozoon joins the egg, the two vibrations interpenetrate and behold the typical vibration of that individual is born on the physical plane.
The vibration that was external to the egg it is the screen that ensures that the other spermatozoa do not disturb and, in the meantime, induces the other changes that must take place in the body that receives the new life in order to prepare the environment for it to be born, then it prepares the shell for the egg to not being disturbed by other spermatozoa, and preparing the birth environment for life to develop; after which it runs out. You could make us a cartoon!
D – Sorry, Scifo, I was saying then that that halo of vibrations is caused by the feel individual. Was I wrong in saying this? Talking about the akashic of the new individuality is the feeling of individuality.
Right. But that wasn't where I said you were wrong, anyway.
D - In the fact of distinguishing subject and… that is body and matter?
In the fact that you said that the akasic plan is made up entirely of feeling, it is only matter of feeling and therefore there can be no unorganized matter.
D - Yes. More or less organized, that's it.
Well, it more or less looks like a bit of a hoop shot and a barrel shot! Either it exists or it does not exist, it cannot be more or less organized. Either it is organized or it is not organized.
D – Everything is organized but there is feeling and feeling. This I said. There is a broader feeling and a less broad feeling, but it's always feeling, at the base, in short. That's what I meant.
I can agree with you that the matter of the akasic plane can be interpreted as particles of feeling; that these particles of feeling are organized and constitute something, I am less in agreement with you.
When you speak of feeling, in the sense in which you spoke of it this afternoon, you mean a feeling of the subtlest level, of the highest level of the akasic body, but when you descend into the densest part of matter then there you find organized feeling and disorganized feeling, otherwise the whole discourse of discovering one's own akasic body, of recognizing it, would go to cards forty-eight.
D – I attributed to this the value ofevolution of feeling.
Of course, but precisely because there is an evolution it means that there is an unorganized feeling which transforms into organized otherwise there would be no evolution of feeling, it would only be organized feeling and that's it.
D - I understand. So it's all a matter of arranging the parts, in short.
Sure, but nothing serious. There are those who get even more confused. I don't mention names because I'm good!
D - Scifo, can I ask something? I wanted to ask you, to return to the egg and spermatozoon, by "vibration sent by the Akasic body of the new individual" we could mean a light (after all, even light or color are vibrations), I imagined a red ray, this body new akasico that sends down a red ray around the egg, but this decision that it is red is a function of the fact that the sperm "is" red. That is, basically, is the type of vibration made because that sperm with that vibration already exists?
Yes sure.
D - Otherwise, if it were to be a yellow sperm it would send down a yellow ray.
Sure, but you will say: "But how then does the Akasic body, which we suppose is at the first human incarnation, know what kind of ray it has to send?". Since it is in its first incarnation it means that it does not yet have organized matter, it does not yet have a real consciousness, so how does it know?
Is it automatic, is it a law, is it mechanical?
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D - Yes, I hadn't even pushed myself to the first incarnation, but I really thought, since we were saying that this new individuality has the first contact with the mother, but she "looked" at the father first however, she looked at his established sperm.
Let's take the simplest example, that of the first incarnation; simpler than that, fewer factors than that cannot be because it is the first incarnation. How is it possible, think about it for a moment, who is that ...
D – He remained with the feeling acquired on the animal and vegetable level.
Well no! Because on the plant and animal level it doesn't acquire feeling!
D – A minimum of feeling, which makes him feel the desire to pass to the human one…
But how does he know which is the right egg, the right sperm and the right time?
D - It is the imprint given by ...
But the imprint can give the idea of the type of body it might have, but how can it be in accordance with the Design?
D - There is the spark, the impulse of the spark.
But of course, dear ones. Let's say it can't come from anyone other than someone or something, a quid that belongs to the Eternal Present, which already knows what the Design is and that, therefore, directs the new individuality towards that type of experience, because he knows that she will have to have that type of experience, and what can this be?
It can't be anything other than the set of all Akasic bodies (in the less dense subplane of the Akasic plane) now conscious and aware, that direct less conscious individuals towards experiences.
And how does this addressing happen?
It happens through those few connections we were talking about at the beginning, those few carpet threads that connect all the akasic bodies, regardless of the acquired feeling.
D – I have always thought of the akasic body which, after so many experiences, went looking for connections, while now the picture turns to me: it is the various connections that then form the unity of the akasic body. I don't know if I managed to explain myself.
Let's say that the speech is bidirectional. Without one of the two terms the link would undoubtedly not be formed.
Q - And does the Akasic body have any complaints, similarly to the physical body, the astral body, the mental body?
No, the Akasic body has no censorship, just as it has no fears, and if it has no fears it cannot even have censorship.
D - Sorry Scifo, all this talk, talking about the egg and the sperm, also applies to animals? Because there too there are eggs and sperm that meet.
Undoubtedly, and there we return to the discourse we made before, of the laws of nature, that is the reproduction between "inferior" beings (in quotation marks because a scale of values between inferior and superior between beings is absurd) takes place through these laws that they take place thanks to those forces, to those forms we mentioned earlier, which I don't want to talk about tonight; it is useless for you to insist!
D – I have to ask you one more time, sorry. If the akasic body doesn't have censorships, after all there is only the organization of the akasic matter with respect to the non-organization, what happens? Is there the maximum interpenetration of feeling of the akasic bodies or do they just get close to each other?
I was trying to prolong this moment over time! We can mention it briefly and very simplistically: there is one fusion, an interpenetration, a union and a formation… but on the other hand I have already mentioned it even before, speaking of a general akasic body which becomes the directing akasic body of the individualities who are still trying to carry on their evolution. He's a bit of a guardian, so to speak.
D - I understand. Thank you.
D - How nice!
I think teaching, not Scifo! Do you have any other questions, since we're here?
D - Scifo, sorry; the unique Akasic body would be identifiable in the cosmic consciousness?
I would say yes, so much so I understood that, to have a moment of peace, I have to answer. Patience! It means that if you find yourself in trouble then I will have the opportunity to say: "I told you!".
[...] I didn't say this to trigger your curiosity, but to make you realize that when you want to take the longest step you can end up not understanding anything about either the step taken before or the step taken after, so stop at the Akasic floor and forget what comes next. If there is an opportunity, the right time or the need, we will address it when the time comes.
Q - Can I ask something? I go much further down: in our plane there is our physical, astral, mental and akasic matter and you said that they are all practically interpenetrated into each other, and you said that saliva, for example, or the ovum or the emission of our other organic liquids is all made up of unstructured akasic, from unstructured materials, but where is our structured part?
Our structured part is all that, little by little, as the lower bodies grew with the growth of the individual in the various planes of existence, fell under the influence of the akasic vibrations, of the akasic body of that individual has been attracted to these vibrations, joined with these vibrations, is governed, manipulated, moved by these vibrations.
This does not mean that it is part of this Akasic body, but it is matter which, belonging to the caducous bodies, to the lower bodies, can be held or released by these vibrations as the case may be.
And it is held together by these vibrations which, as you rightly mentioned before, are largely governed by the energetic currents that pass through the various chakra of the individual, but also from that subtle network of electromagnetic connections that are i nadis, on the body of the individual, which are those who, then, give the shape, without which the individual would lose its shape, because the matter would not be held tightly together. So much meat on the fire, right, my dear?
So if you have nothing else to ask about today's debate... I'd say say goodbye here tonight, wait for the next session which will be the last of this cycle, alas: a cycle in which we talked about many things perhaps going far from what was the starting point, but only in appearance because then you will see that "Everything is One" because turning this way was like turning the other way and you will always arrive where... I wanted to arrive, anyway .
This is not to make you feel frustrated or like puppets whose string I pull, but because the Truth is that and wherever you turn you always get to that Truth. Scifo
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Really a lot of meat on the fire Scifo !!! All interesting topics especially since you are the only source to draw from. What I know will remain is the overall view, the particularities escape me. Thanks for your patience.