D - When I spoke of animals I was referring to a behavior - as we read in ethology - that certain traits are common to the species, therefore also to the human being. I was thinking about archetypes, to something that is a trait common to the species in innate or instinctive behavior.
I wanted to get to this too. It is evident that the child, at this point, at least until the Akasic body comes into play, must be considered practically as an animal. I would not want to be misunderstood and that you put the collar on him and take him for a walk ... as awareness or as a capacity of the lower bodies, he has the same awareness and ability as an animal, as the same lower bodies that are in motion are in motion. in the animal.
It is only when he develops his ability to speak and his Akasic component comes into play, that he will differentiate himself from the animal and, therefore, his way of being will become different; and then also his problems, his instinct, his gestures, his personality it will be formed in that peculiar way proper to the human being. Anything to ask about this before moving on?
D - I would say that already the mental situation, which is created, differentiates it, begins to detach it from the animal.
Without a doubt, without a doubt.
D - That is, without getting to Akasic, but already before ...
Let's say - just wanting to clarify - that certain kinds of animals, particularly close to the last animal incarnation, are very close, as a mental capacity, as a mental situation, to the child.
D - What conditions the child, however, is the lack of affection. That changes him, even when he's small.
Well, no doubt the lack of affection changes that; first of all because with the lack of affection his astral body no longer receives pleasure and, therefore, this already causes particular directions for the development of the child's personality.
Then when the mental body comes into play, the lack of affection makes him elaborate this lack of affection, this "because the affection is lacking"; and here may be the point where the birth of many problems that the child will have later on is identified, as in his fantasies he seeks a justification for this lack of affection and, being a child and with all the skills developed, he will perhaps find the strangest solutions to justify this lack of affection, which perhaps he sees (or thinks he sees) for other children, but which he does not possess.
It is only when - as I said earlier - the Akasic body comes into play (here he talks about the most relevant connection of the Akasic body, the one that occurs around the twenty-first year of age, ed.), that all the strands of this discourse will be pulled in some way. And you might think that this is the most dramatic moment, right?
And indeed, in a certain sense it is, because it is in that moment that the individual (I said at that moment but, of course, it is not a moment) will give the definitive turning point to his way of being, as he will be on the thrust of his Akasic body (and, therefore, of theevolution that he already possesses) that he will retain what he has taken in certain points and instead will reject, eliminate, or postpone or no longer take into consideration, overcoming them, those elements that he has taken from his parents and that are no longer necessary to him to move forward in his evolution.
It is this important step, the critical point of the individual, of the birth of his personality and, therefore, of his next life, of his life in the future of his days.
It is a period not of a moment, as I said, but a period that in reality it begins immediately at the end of adolescence and then goes on, afterwards, until the individual can find his way of being more or less balanced with himself.
In reality, that period lasts until the end of the life he is leading, since it is from that analysis of the Akasic body on the internal drives of the individual that his whole life will then unfold, that he will move all his understanding and seek, thanks to these elements, to acquire new factors to get to understand.
D - In large part all this work takes place unknowingly?
Unknowingly for the mind, for the brain?
D - Yes.
Sure!
Q - In the very first years of the child, who are predominantly made of sensation with regard to the astral body, to what extent is the mental body inserted? In practice, it is not that within seven years he works only astrally and that's it.
No, of course! Io I'd say pretty much the first year of life is almost totally astral, because only the first mechanics of reasoning begin to set in motion, rather than a real reasoning.
The mental body will then start from third year onwards to function in some small element, in a slightly more complex way, a little less primitive than the mentality of an animal (given what we have said before).
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D - When in the adolescent there is the Akasic body that makes a selection of the positive aspects, this depends on its evolutionary level, that is, it recognizes the positive aspect because it corresponds to its evolutionary level, or even the figure of the parents can give it a boost ?
The figure of the parent - as we said in one of the last meetings - is only a curtain in which the various possibilities of choice are put before the individual, the items to choose, which he owns.
Having chosen these elements, what happens? It happens that the Akasic body, when the time is right, will send impulses to the individual so that those that are useless - in the various elements it has taken - are discarded, ignored, so they have no influence on the individual himself; those that have now been understood by the Akasic body (which no longer have any value as the understanding of these elements has already been achieved) will somehow be eliminated or, at least, not taken into consideration and only those elements that guarantee will remain, within the individuality a dynamic that leads, then, to a different understanding not yet reached. I've been clear?
In the end, we have said that the Oedipus complex is neither necessary nor indispensable for the growth of the individual; but then, if - as I have said more often lately - nothing is wasted in Reality, but everything that exists has its why and therefore its function, what the hell is it for?
D - Scifo, you said it too last time, that it is precisely through these sexual conflicts, these conflicts of roles, that the individual in any case evolves, understands things and is faced with realities to face which, probably , are functional to its growth.
D - To realize the split and strive for unity.
You see, creatures, for the individual to grow, make his life, evolve, acquire elements, put together everything that he needs to grow, he needs to make a certain type of path, he needs to move, to go come on; and one of the main elements (which is then, after all, in a small way, which can be related to the evolutionary needs of him) is that, in the course of the individual's life, of to shift one's attention from oneself to the outside, more and more outside; just as, in the course of evolution, it needs to pass from its own “I” to a fusion with the other “I's”, until it reaches the Absolute.
“So high, so low,” remember?
Now, the Oedipus complex, as it is structured under the pressures of your society, also performs this task, as there is a considerable push to ensure that the child, in the search for the elements he needs to grow up, you shift your attention outside yourself and, therefore, no longer focus only on your own ego but try to project yourself on the parents, to capture from them what they need.
When his parents have nothing more to give him, his need to obtain elements will make him move away from his parents, to relatives, to friends, to an affection, to a love and on and on and on; so that this research will eventually lead him to come into contact and relate to other individuals.
This is one of the tasks that the Oedipus complex performs in your society; it is, in short, nothing more than a set of multiple stimuli, multiple thrusts that work together to form the individual and that it has been called the "Oedipus Complex", but which in reality is only, truly, a selection of different impulses that cooperate with each other.
D - It creates a basis of behavior for him for the future.
Of course! And not only that, but it really gives him the push to look for this basis: if this push were not there, the individual would remain on himself, he would hardly look for a partner, a partner, or would have children and so on and on and on; he would be happy with himself and would remain in himself.
Q - In any case, this relationship with others, in adulthood, is then conditioned by how you lived this relationship with your parents, or in any case with those you had in childhood?
Of course! And you will say: “But why does it have to be like this?”. But it's simple: because it has to be! In fact, it must be remembered that the individual is born in a certain family as it is "that family" that will be able to provide him with the right stimuli to understand.
D - But the parents don't give also a patrimony only after, but also before it is born, on a biological level, for which it is already conformed to receive these stimuli from the parents?
Here we enter another minefield! If you remember, some time ago, I asked the question whether it is true - as geneticists seem to discover now - that everything is part of the individual, not only the physical aspect, but even the emotional tendencies, the way of behaving, the personality , are already established at the genetic level. If so, you have to review everything, right?
D - You said, it seems to me, that the genetic aspect is only an effect of underlying causes.
Yes, but we also said that genetically things are actually that way; or that already within the genetic chain of the individual it is written, in some way, as the individual must be, not only physiologically, but also temperamentally.
D - The fact that it is written does not necessarily lead to its manifestation ...
D - It has also been said that the individual is going to choose the "how"; how it must be born, then we will look for the DNA appropriate to the experience that he has to carry out.
We never said it… but let's leave it as a task for the summer!
Q - Sorry, but is it the Akasic you choose?
No! Think about it: it will be an interesting topic, right? Scifo
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The whole reality of representation is shaped so that one passes through ever larger degrees of awareness. But the passage from one degree to another, in the dimension of Becoming, takes place through the logic of conflict, which is none other than the logic of the relationship.
It seems reasonable to me to place the Oedipus complex within this dynamic.
Thank you.