The Akasic body, the Ego, its overcoming [IF3a]

D - As long as there is Io there is selfishness ...
Remember that manifestations of affection are also ego manifestations. 
So does this mean, according to what you were saying, that the moment you "succeed in annihilating the I" you will not feel any manifestation of affection towards anyone?
Is this what it means to cancel the ego?

D - It could be said that this transformation means acquiring awareness of belonging to a larger circle than usual I, which can first pass from the awareness of belonging to the same species, then to fraternal feelings towards all humanity; going further, also the awareness of belonging to the whole family of living beings and, therefore, getting closer to what is non-human and that participates in life.

Undoubtedly, the enlargement of consciousness and the feel it presupposes touching the feeling that is next to you and vibrating in unison with it, with all those who have reached your own feeling. 
Therefore it presupposes, at this point, to connect an infinite chain of feeling that they touch, unite, recognize each other, for all aspects that are similar to each other.

And the more you expand your feeling, the more pieces you put into your puzzle, the more you have the chance to find other feelings that have the same piece you can vibrate with, and this can only lead to a widening of consciousness, to an expansion, up to to also understand all the reality that surrounds you.

D - Once one has understood and has reached total understanding, the ego is canceled. At this point there is no longer the… I can't explain myself...

It is right what you are saying, when you reach the maximum feeling reachable by the Akasic body, certainly the I can no longer exist as there will no longer be the physical, astral, mental body....
The ego will no longer exist, however the sense of being an individual will still exist, and it is here that the feeling will have to expand, the conscience will have to expand again until it joins other individualities and in some way form ever wider collectivities until reaching the divine breadth.

Q - Does the individual's awareness remain?

The individual still knows that it is him.

D - In fact, then we would come to the union of the famous necklace.

Since, then, from what I said a moment ago about the ego and the Akasic body, I had the impression - feeling with you what you have read today - that the words spoken could give rise to misunderstandings, that is to say to think that the Akasic body also belonged to the ego, that it was part of the ego sphere. 
The sense in which those words were spoken was another, namely the fact that the ego depends on the Akasic body, as it is a creature of the Akasic body, indirectly, since the Akasic body is the one who influences and "orders" the constitution of that type of mental body, of that type of astral body and of that type of physical body from whose reactions that type of ego is born.

D - Before incarnating there is already a programming process for the new human being who will have to live, with an astral body of a certain weight, a mental body of a certain weight, etc.

If you say it like this it seems like a planned thing!
In reality it is not something so planned: let's say that there are mechanisms that ensure that through the vibrations emanating from the akasic body and its state of feeling at the moment of incarnation a certain matter is assumed by the bodies that are being created, constituting the bodies best suited for that type of incarnation.

Q - Does the Akasic body suffer?

Let's say that he feels the sense of incompleteness, and it is precisely this sense of incompleteness that gives the impetus to act, otherwise - "so high so low" - there would be no movement towards the attempt to broaden one's feeling.
Certainly it is not a suffering like what physical suffering can be, but, in some ways, it is a type of suffering ..

D - It seems that the Akasic body uses the mental body, the astral body and the physical body only to broaden its conscience, while the sufferings, so very humanly called, always fall on the poor human individual, who at this point can say: "But sorry, who made me do it?".

No, dear, you forget one thing, that, in reality, the individual is the same.

D - But the physical individual suffers, the Akasic individuality does not.

But they are not two separate things, they are the same thing!
It would be as if you gave yourself a hammer on your finger and the other fingers complained because that finger is in pain and they don't! It is always you who suffer: the other hand does not realize that the finger of the other hand is suffering, but nothing changes: it is not the finger that is suffering, in reality, but the whole body.
Sure, you say, I am aware of having a physical body and not of having an akasic body! Sure, that's the point, but that's the I talking, not you.

D - Yes but I bear the consequences ...
D - But also the advantages ...
D - Let's say that in this land there are many more sufferings than joys ... I am not talking about my specific case because I have nothing to complain about, but if I look around there is a humanity that suffers ... for which one cannot really say that there are more joys than pains ...

No, there is a humanity that wants to suffer, the speech is different.

D - Must ...

No, he has to because he wanted to, it doesn't change anything, because he forces himself to suffer in the future.

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D - Is it possible that a being in his first incarnation, in bad shape from the karmic point of view, does not suffer absolutely… his life does not know suffering at all?

Absolutely not, but not having much suffering is possible.

Q - And how is it possible if his Akasic body is so poorly structured that it will give very high impulses?

Because he will not have the consciousness of realizing the wrong actions he does.

D - But the physical, astral or mental consequences will be very painful ...

They may be, but they may not be.

D - You said that the ego has no connection with the Akasic body. In my opinion, perhaps I have not understood myself well, it seems that the ego is made up of all the impulses coming from all bodies including the akasic, although it is independent.

No, we didn't understand each other. I repeat it, because it is a very important point: the ego as we define it - and as you too think you define it by now - is made up of the results of the three lower bodies, which depend on the higher bodies simply in so far as there are influences that somehow come from these other bodies.
So there is an interaction. But the ego is constituted by the results of these three lower bodies, by the interactions of these three lower bodies.
Then, without a doubt, the ego also depends on the spark, there is no doubt about this as there is a chain of causes and effects that then reaches the ego through the mechanism of formation of the three lower bodies that create it.

D - It seems to me that in an old definition of yours, it was reported that together with these impulses of the three lower bodies there were also those of the akasic body.

Of course, the impulses are certainly there. But supposing, absurdly, that an individual without akasic body but constituted only by the three lower bodies could exist, the ego could exist equally, precisely because it is simply an interaction between these three bodies.

D - Better constitutes itself when the mental body is developed, when it has become aware that the ego identifies itself, right?

It self-identifies and changes, let's say.
Here, perhaps this can be a way to connect the ego with the akasic body in some direction: let's say that, without any doubt, when one reaches understanding and feeling on the akasic body, this is reflected on the three lower bodies and, therefore, one it also reflects in some way on the ego which, consequently, changes itself. Yes, if that's what you wanted to know.
However, what we define as ego is a reaction, is the interaction of these three lower bodies. That, then, these three bodies react in turn under the impulses of the other higher bodies, this is beyond doubt.

D - Anyway we talked about the akasic body that possesses this sense of individuality, but at any level of organization the akasic body, in general, is a product of fusion of similar feelings ...

Yes, without a doubt, since its inception ...

Q - Where does this sense of individuality come from, even though it is instead a product of mergers?

Because it is not aware, it is not seen in its entirety. The sense of fusion with the other individualities within the Akasic plane will occur only when he can see the entirety of his body and feel fused with all the others, otherwise he will always be a part, perhaps in fusion with a part of the other bodies. but it will always be a part of the Whole.

Q - I found some difference between what is there sharing and what is there fusion of feeling; I seemed to understand that the communion of feeling already takes place during the incarnation of the individual, when hearing analogs recognize each other and vibrate in unison, while the fusion would be something that is beyond the wheel of births and deaths.

Yes, I would say that you are quite close to reality.

But now between mergers, fissions and splits, you are tired, so let's finish this meeting, also because, in reality, having removed all the frills that we put for the use of guests, for the use of your curiosity, or for the use of your need for caresses, and on and on and on, many things have been said and, therefore, we do not want to strain your mind too much. Scifo


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4 comments on “The akasic body, the Ego, its overcoming [IF3a]”

  1. We understand very well how the ego is illusory and "ephemeral". It makes one smile, on the other hand, how much care and dedication is given to it in the physical plane; how distorted and distant they are from a coherent interpretation and articulate not only common sense but also some broad sectors of religion and morals, not to mention philosophy as it has been understood in the West. A reality and consequently an ego-centric society which seems to have completely forgotten and subverted the true ordering of Reality. Thank you.

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  2. Here we find the answer to that "feeling like brothers" that is reachable only when the ego is no longer there. The human condition does not allow it. Only when the consciousness has reached its maximum awareness will this be possible because in that phase the sense of being an individual will still exist.
    That individual feeling will be a condition of incompleteness that will provide the impetus for the next evolution that will take place through the union with other individualities. And so on until the ultimate Union is reached.
    Suffering or what is equivalent to it on the other planes will not be over soon !!

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