D - You said that the suffering serves to bring us to one comprehension; so I think that, as long as this understanding has not happened, we will obviously continue to suffer. Now, there are karmic situations in our lives that are very painful and irreversible.
For example, the birth of a troubled child, an abnormal child that grieves a father and a mother; and this will be an irreversible thing, which will last a lifetime. So io I wonder: "Even if these parents come to an understanding, which should improve the situation, this one, which in principle will last a lifetime, seems to me to take away hope ...
I don't think so, because even in a situation as difficult as the one you have envisaged, there can be an understanding.
What happens when this understanding occurs? Clearly one cannot say what kind of understanding, because it varies from case to case; but suppose this understanding occurs in an example like yours, of a child who is not physically normal; the parent, who comes to understand what this karma puts before him continuously throughout his life, will ensure that the situation will no longer bring suffering.
Of course, he will always realize that this child is not the same as other children; but the thing will be so accepted, so introjected, that the love for the child will always be the same, it will not change, as if he were a completely normal child.
In reality the suffering, many times, even in these cases, derives from the fact that the child is different, as we said at the beginning; and being different, this brings a whole set of psychological situations also towards the outside world. But the parent, who accepts the abnormality of the child, makes him no longer a different, but a normal for himself; and by becoming normal - this child - in the same eyes as the parents, the parent will no longer suffer from this apparent abnormality. Georgei
D - Yes, I understand that there can be an understanding due to acceptance, to the love that one has for this child, but there are cases, for example of very painful diseases, where one sees the child suffer tremendously, even on a physical level, without being able to doing nothing, in which I think it is difficult to have an acceptance.
Think about the other side of the coin, the other aspect of the situation that you are presenting: the sick person; certainly the sick person suffers even more, because he undergoes physical suffering, while whoever is close to him imagines it, does not live it directly; and the karmic situation is equally strong and painful for the person who has the disease; however, there are cases of people who learn to live with the disease until they no longer suffer, however serious and painful it may be. Georgei
D - So understanding is when you have the full acceptance of the sufferings, of that kind of suffering there; that is, understanding means acceptance.
Let's say that the concept can be translated in some way; it is a bit difficult to explain for those who do not live it directly, what happens with understanding ...
It can be translated into that famous phrase: "Your will be done and not mine".
It is an analogous interior situation, since the individual, in this irreversible karma, manages to touch that understanding which, translated, gives voice to this type of sentence and from that moment on suffering becomes something else entirely.
D - However, it does not improve the karmic situation; that is, while you see in life cases where at the moment of understanding the situation matures and then dies out, then you have a tangible fact to prove that understanding has taken place; in case of irreversible illness, all that can happen is that of acceptance; it is not that a miracle occurs (except in exceptional cases, in which there is a resolution), the disease continues to exist.
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Of course; if karma is irreversible - as the word itself says - so is disease. There are cases, as you mentioned, in which those that are irreversible physical karmas at some point for a "miracle", in quotation marks, change, change, why? How is this possible?
Why is the karma that you consider irreversible, which acts as irreversible karma for several people around the core person, the fulcrum of this situation, resolved? In order for the situation to be truly resolved - so in reality there is no completely irreversible karma - it is necessary that all people who are subjected to this karma have the understanding that this karma can bring about; so you can imagine that it is a very rare thing that can actually happen. Georgei
D - I would like to ask a question too, about lighting; I would like to know if thelighting, which, as you said, can happen at any time in a person's life, it also applies to people who are not too evolved, or there must be a certain evolution for this channel to divinity to exist.
Oh! This begins to be an eternal quest! And I have to tell you, once again, that you don't understand.
The problem arises from the fact that you usually have the wrong idea of what enlightenment is; because by enlightenment you usually mean the person who suddenly merges with the Absolute; but it is not only that.
Of course, there are also cases of people who make a total leap in evolution, a leap in quality such that they are able to reach divinity; and therefore after that life they no longer incarnate.
It is natural that it happens, sooner or later it will happen even to you, but enlightenment comes every time one has understood something; all understanding is an illumination. Georgei
Q - But I am referring to the type of enlightenment that once achieved allows the individual to experience only positive karma for the rest of his life.
This is a situation that never occurs. Georgei
Q - So even an enlightened one eventually continues to suffer?
No doubt; you cannot give a wipe in the sponge on everything he has done before he was enlightened; it would be an injustice, also because, remember, that karma must also be paid back so there are debts towards others. Georgei
Q - Even knowing what karmic debts are concerned, I thought that enlightenment, once reached, entailed a whole series of positive situations for the rest of my life.
Indeed, I would say more; if we look at the life of the great enlightened we notice that in recent years they have had many things that can be considered an excess of negative karma; and this is precisely because, being in their last life, they have to absolve all the karma that is left behind. They no longer have other lives to do something that changes the situation, they have to close the accounts evenly otherwise it would not make sense. Georgei
D - A yoga instructor of mine once said that the negative tensions of a human being are real waves that others are able to perceive, make their own and postpone; that's it?
Well, in a way I would say yes. Indeed, every sensation, every emotion, every thought, is actually a vibration; and this is a fact well understood by all of you who have been following us for more or less time; and you know that the vibrations increase when they encounter similar vibrations.
Now, what happens if one person emits negative vibes and these vibes meet another person who has the same kind of vibes?
It will set in motion, by assonance, this vibration lying, dormant, inside the other person; so that's how there is a kind of psychic contagion, of passing from one to another of this negativity.
But this only happens because there is a similarity between the vibrations of the two people; that's why we always say that there is no wizard, no hypnotist, no sorcerer, no entity, who can do anything against you if you don't have the kind of thing inside that the sorcerer, the magician, the entity seeks to make you do. Georgei
Q - Consequently a calm and balanced person does not perceive these negative vibrations?
No, maybe he perceives them; however, they do not resonate within him creating problems.
It's a bit the same as hypnotism; you know that with thehypnotism, you also see it on your televisions, you can do wonderful things - regardless of rigged experiments - such as numbing or increasing sensitivity and so on; and, in theory, one could even lead a person to suicide; but in reality this is not possible, unless this person already possesses inwardly, himself, the drive towards suicide. Georgei
D - There must be the ability to resonate ...
So these things have the function of triggering that spring, which otherwise would have tripped in later times. Georgei
D - It is a bit like the evil eye, which strikes weak and easily suggestible people.
More than suggestible, they already have a negative tendency inside. Georgei
D - But if a person is sensitive enough to perceive anything bad or good, he is not to blame.
The person perceives vibrations, to which he will give a connotation that many times may not be right, as the interpretation takes place according to his own subjectivity.
Rather I would like you, then, between you and you, certainly not in this area here, to ask yourself why you said "it is not fault her". One of the ugliest concepts that the Catholic world has introduced into the lives of all of you is the concept of guilt; we say and the teachers in particular always say that guilt does not exist. Georgei
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The post covers issues to keep in mind. I was especially struck by how georgei liquidates our claim to enlightenment by stating that all understanding is enlightenment.
So vibrating with one person means emitting a note that the other is able to recognize, and vice versa? Will the condition of well-being exist only in the case of positive vibrations? When we say we are in tune with the other, is it because the vibrations emitted by both are recognized? When this harmony fails is it because the vibratory field of the two people is different?
The explanation of the miracle given by this paradigm is interesting.
The mechanism that allows the cancellation of suffering is clear: the suffering generated by any situation is canceled when understanding is achieved. This happens regardless of the objectivity of the situation itself.
On the other hand, the explanation of the so-called "miracles" is interesting, which can only be achieved when understanding involves all the actors who revolve around the core person, thus telling us that there is no irreversible karma.
Guilt does not exist.
Thank you.
"Your will be done, not mine." These words strike me and I reflect on the concept of acceptance, not as a passive attitude, but rather as recognizing the suffering necessary to come to an understanding. Relying on the wisdom of the Absolute and not always understanding its design.
The explanations given to the various questions posed give a sense of great balance and justice. Everything is reconciling, you are at home!