From what has been learned so far, it is clear that for the purposes ofevolution knowledge has basically only a relative importance.
If you think well, this concept should revolutionize your whole way of living and conceiving of existence and the very society in which you live and in which those who know the most are usually considered large and consequently very evolved.
In reality, knowledge is simply a means that can be useful, as has been said before, to achieve evolution, but it was not strictly necessary for this achievement.
To achieve evolution it is strictly necessary to go beyond what is the simple knowledge of things and arrive at understanding.
If you think of all these years in which we have come to talk to you, we have always made a very clear distinction between knowledge and understanding, and the reason is precisely this, as knowing is not enough: reality must be understood.
This must be applied not only to the mental knowledge that you can reach, attain in the course of your physical life or in any interval between one life and another, but especially as regards the knowledge of yourself, of your inner self.
Knowing oneself, in fact, has a broader meaning if the word understand is replaced by the word understand as we use it; it is not enough, in fact, to know one's selfishness, but it is necessary - strictly necessary to get to move towards the connection with one's conscience - to understand it, to understand what moves it, what causes it to be more and more tenacious, more and more strong , more and more combative.
Therefore, it is not enough to achieve evolution, acknowledge that you are selfish, but it is necessary, my brothers, understand why you are selfish and what is it that moves the selfishness of each of you. Andrea
If the ultimate goal of incarnating myself continuously, of my evolving therefore, is to reach the enlargement of consciousness that allows me to identify myself with the Whole, how is it possible that io is he able to make this enlargement of consciousness operative?
If knowing what I am is not enough, what must I do to be able to reunite, through evolution, with the Whole?
- In the end, it is useless to try hard, because you can't really force a state of consciousness, but the state of consciousness must be overcome spontaneously, without effort;
- it is not even enough to observe myself in the course of my life why mere observation is not enough to cross the boundaries of my current feel;
- it is not even enough to know the goal I have to reach and want to reach it, strongly wanting to achieve it at all costs, because the mere fact of wanting to achieve something makes it impossible to obtain the right equilibrium condition that allows it to be reached.
In fact, the sage of antiquity says:
"My son, if you want to reach the ideal condition that allows you to overcome your selfishness, if you want to reach that condition that makes you feel part of the Whole, and finally get to make you feel the Whole itself, you must be able to live the your life among men, but without being moved by desire anymore.
You have to live your life spontaneously, simply by doing what you feel you are doing not because you hope in that way to reach the desired goal, but simply because acting in that way is natural and spontaneous to you and causes no effort, no tension in you. ".
This is the absence of desire that is handed down by Eastern doctrines and which, so often, is misunderstood and poorly accepted: absence of desire does not mean withdrawing completely from the world, giving up, not possessing, having nothing, but it means for example have money without being governed by money, possess knowledge but ensure that knowledge is not used to override others.
Absence of desire, children and brothers, therefore means being able to live one's life spontaneously. Ananda
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Ananda perfectly describes what I intimately sense. Even if putting it into practice involves an endless work of observing one's limits and the realization of how difficult it is to free oneself from the desire that is described.
The theme of the effort in the inner way returns, already addressed in a previous post of the Ifior Circle. Here a suggestion is added, a sort of indication on what to do to “be able to rejoin, through evolution, with the whole”. I understand very well when he says that simple observation of oneself or knowing and wanting to reach the goal of union with the Whole is not enough to go beyond the boundaries of one's feeling. I get a bit tangled when we are asked to “live life among men, without being moved by desire”. Here I find it difficult to go beyond the dualism of mental reasoning. In fact, I ask myself: is not the absence of desire in turn the result of the expansion of feeling, of the achievement of those understandings that lead to giving up the attachment for things that finally appear for what they are, or rather mere illusion?
Similarly, I wonder if living spontaneously, the gratuitousness of one's gestures, actions, choices is not a point of arrival, the fruit of a maturation achieved through experience, rather than a state of consciousness that can be recalled through, precisely, " the effort "or the will.
When we speak of the absence of desire, we are clearly not speaking of repression or renunciation, but, I imagine, of a loss of interest in reaching what is other than the present moment, from the here and now, from "what is".
What is my capacity for action, where is the balance between wanting and not wanting, between effort and absence of effort based? At this moment the path of knowledge - awareness - understanding seems to me a dance between these apparent opposites, as if the incarnational process itself cannot ignore the intertwining of the forces of the world of appearance, and the cosmic forces of the interior.
I await light, Thanks.
Letting oneself be guided by feeling means allowing the flow of one's essence which, having no obstacles, will have no desire to chase because all desires are already fulfilled in that manifestation. What lightness!
x Roberta
"Isn't the absence of desire in turn the result of the expansion of feeling, of the attainment of those understandings that lead to giving up the attachment for things that finally appear for what they are, that is, mere illusion?"
Obviously this is the case but, as always, we must remember that, as long as the feeling is not completely structured, the absence of desire is not total but the individual "puts it into effect" only in relation to those areas of understanding that has arrived. to achieve; and this fact, clearly, limits the positioning of the complexion with respect to the illusion because the intertwining of understandings can lead one to feel as indispensable that, instead, they are not really so.
“When we speak of the absence of desire, we are clearly not speaking of repression or renunciation, but, I imagine, of a loss of interest in reaching what is other than the present moment, from the here and now, from 'what is'.
I do not believe that it leads to a loss of interest but, rather, to the achievement of a broader awareness of what is the real importance of every aspect concerning the life of the embodied individual. This brings with it the ability to shift one's attention and action towards those elements that most strongly urge one's desire,
"What is my capacity for action, where is the balance between wanting and not wanting, between effort and absence of effort based?"
What you say is all managed by feeling reached.
The possible action is modulated by the individual's ability to "feel" the desire that drives him and to be able to recognize how much of that push is the result of selfish desire and how much comes from genuinely felt intentions. This, in my opinion, means that desire can also always be present even in the embodied individual of excellent evolution, but he will be able not to be governed by it understanding that the one who desires is the ego. As far as the body of consciousness is concerned, it could also be said that it wishes but that it has only one desire, that of always taking in new elements in order to expand itself.
When there is a fully achieved understanding about an element, there is no effort in not desiring while the effort becomes greater when that understanding has not yet been fully achieved because the ego still has preponderance over feeling.
Thanks to the Guide for the patience with which they repeat the concepts to us so that we can always have them present.
Thanks Gian, everything much clearer now.
thank you
Clearer what is meant by lack of desire… thank you.