[…] Certainly we can not do anything to alleviate such a situation in a person, as it is evident that that person must go through that experience, and you must do the same, otherwise you would not find yourself in contact with this person.
There is no one, no entity, no one teacher, no one who can deflect an experience of that kind from a person, just as it would not be possible to prevent a person from dying when it is his time.
It would absolutely not be possible to do this. What I can tell you instead, a hypothesis that I can make you, is this: have you ever wondered what kind of life does a person have in the last incarnation?
D - Could have several. Of all kinds.
Certainly. But so, generically, as a life setting, how do you imagine the life of an evolved person in the last incarnation?
D - If he does not have restrictive karma, he could live as a teacher. Because we know that one can also be very evolved and, however, lead a very humble and even anonymous life.
And the pain, the suffering, the disease, would it be there or not? Why would they be there or why would they not be there?
D - There may be and may not be: it depends on the possibilities and the freedom that this person has in the last incarnation.
Io I would say that in principle, however, they are always there; and not only are they always there, but solitamente the last life is a very painful life, in reality.
Very painful for a simple reason: you all know the discourse of karma, that is, of a person who in the course of his evolution it causes causes and effects, therefore a karma that is poured out on the person himself in all the various incarnations.
Now, clearly, the person who arrives at the last incarnation still has some karma to fulfill otherwise he would not be alive anymore. When a person no longer has karma to absolve he no longer has any reason to be alive, because it means that he has already understood everything he had to understand and therefore that he no longer moves any cause. Right?
However, being still alive, it means that he had karma to absolve; but at that point things get complicated because, being the last life, this karma must be absolved in some way, right? Here then the karma is resolved for the person precisely through the sufferings, the difficulties that the person encounters in the course of that life, which will no longer move more karma but will simply be a kind of atonement to eliminate the last waste of karma that still they linked it to physical life.
Here, this - for example - could be the case of that person our friend here was talking about, who has always been good, altruistic and so on, and unfortunately finds himself suffering, in conditions certainly not pleasant for her or for the people he loves.
The suffering he is going through could be, for example, the very symptom of the fact that he is in the last incarnation, so with this suffering there is a bit of the signature placed on the whole path he has traveled in his evolution, and that, therefore , the moment he leaves the physical plane this time he will truly be forever, and he will leave behind all the suffering that a later life could bring again. This, of course, you may never have thought of, right?
D - Thanks! I hadn't thought of this, but I wanted to ask one more thing, in all sincerity: since I, although I didn't intend to, sometimes got angry with this person for a good purpose...
Not always for a good purpose. Sometimes selfishness, my dear, you still have it too.
D - Sure. Of course. I wanted to know how much fault I have for all this evil that is going through, because the two times he screamed I felt guilty ...
You, my dear, are a bit of a living mirror of a phrase Maestro Fabius often says, namely: "why not suffer when it is possible to suffer?".
There is nothing you owe feel guilty. Beyond the fact that, even if you had behaved in a way that somehow caused what may have happened, feeling guilty would be of no use at all, indeed it would make the situation even worse, all in all.
I can tell you that you have no specific faults in this case ... You try, rather, to be as peaceful as possible, because serenity helps the other person.
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D - I try not to leak anything, on the contrary I follow it ...
My dear, those who know you cannot fail to notice your problems, your desires, your doubts, your torments. Perhaps it would be better if, instead of masking, you let the real part of you appear ... the situation, in this way, is much more painful than if, instead, you had a dialogue, you could talk, had the impression that it could still be useful: not telling her your problems can also mean, for that person, feeling useless towards you, a burden and that's it.
D - Sure. I understand what you mean. I hope that at least there is the possibility that she has a peaceful passing, and that it is also due to the fact that he no longer has worries about me.
But there will certainly be a peaceful passing. On the other hand, what I can guarantee you, my dear, is that the Masters, and Michel in particular, whatever he is with you, it's not that they don't follow you.
This always happens, but especially later, when one enters the sphere of influence of the Masters. It cannot be said that whoever enters it has a red bow (as it was said a long time ago) but nevertheless enters a certain communion, and therefore the contact is more direct than someone who has never entered into communion with the Masters.
And certainly it is easier for the Masters to intervene at the level of vibrations, energies, serenity, when it is possible to do so.
It is always a question of being able to overcome your barriers, the ones that you so easily put in yourself, covering yourselves perhaps with victimhood, with pain, closing yourself in on yourself and so on. But always and in any case, we guarantee you, the Masters send their positive vibrations towards you in difficult times.
It is perhaps the only thing, the best thing they can really do. Georgei
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"Why not suffer when you can suffer?"
Very significant step.
As well as the other with regard to the masking of one's feelings. Any masking of the ego leads to an inauthentic relationship that can only generate suffering. Opening up to the other, daring, opens us up to authenticity and also to a greater rate of serenity, which descends on us and on the other.
Thank you.
thank you
I had already read the post in the third book of "The one and the many" and it was helpful to see that even in the last incarnation there can be suffering without moving karma, just to equalize the previous one.
I understood that here the masters do not distinguish between pain and suffering but use the terms interchangeably. In fact, both of them relate to both the physical and mental spheres but, in my opinion, pain, both physical and psychological, is something deeper, it works in the “flesh”, suffering is a coexistence with the pain that has dissipated; that is to say acute phase, chronic phase.
Certainly while pain can come unexpectedly and, at the moment, it can make us feel very bad, the processing of the same should then dilute the suffering that derives from it. If we have understood that we are not victims we should also learn to learn by suffering less and less.
For people who are in the last incarnation, I understand that the pain is lived without victimhood, but in acceptance.
The man who tends to seek happiness, can accept pain, because there is such an awareness that the greatest joy to aspire to is to rejoin the One. This supports him even in the most difficult moments.
Perhaps it would be enough to observe the rate of identification in the role of the victim, to understand the evolutionary level of each one.
The pain in the last incarnation
Lived in different ways from individual to individual ...
I understand that knowledge is the key to consciously suffering.
“Instead, try to be as serene as possible, because serenity helps the other person”.
This is what most resonates ...
Keeping calm and serenity always helps those close to you.
Especially in times of suffering.
I would have thought the opposite and that is that the last incarnation was not very painful precisely because of the understandings reached.
However, it is true that the degree of understanding will lead to less suffering understood as a subjective perception of pain.
On the other hand, it strikes me and reassures me that in difficult situations the masters send their positive vibrations