Q - I read in a magazine that this cyclical nature of reincarnation follows some astrological rhythms, therefore one incarnates with the sequence of the zodiac ... I ask you if there is a certain order that follows this discourse or is the matter not true?
Io I would say that the incarnative cycle of individuality does not follow the constellations but follows its needs, which is perhaps apparently the most selfish but, without a doubt, the most right thing because how can a constellation decide when an individual needs to incarnate? Unless you personalize the constellation by making it – who knows – an entity, a fairy, a magician, and so on and on.
D - Not the times, but the concatenation; for which one was born in the following astrological signs, according to the order ... it is not a question of timing but precisely of succession.
Let's try to understand, then, what you mean; because it is not that he understood much.
D - That one born under the sign of Leo in the next incarnation becomes a Virgo, because after Leo there is the zodiac sign of Virgo ... this in a nutshell.
It does not correspond to the truth.
D - Since they say that all signs have certain characteristics, if one has to experience certain experiences it may be that, being born under one sign rather than another, he is more inclined to have certain experiences, perhaps more physical, more mental, more ... He could be that there is some relevance?
But, look, undoubtedly everything in the cosmos is linked, undoubtedly the stars are producers of energy and vibrations, undoubtedly the great mass of stars - as well as other things - produces waves of vibrations that can be cyclical within the cosmos just as everything is cyclical; the problem is that these vibrations - these great vibrations, let's call them that - what do they do?
They do not establish, they do not have the function, the strength and the power to influence events, as has sometimes been believed in the past; however, they have the possibility of arranging certain energetic situations on which the events established by the Great Design can then settle, creating the Great Design itself.
Here, then, that certain particular conjunctions of stars - and let's leave the planets and all the rest of the speech alone because, otherwise, it would become very complex - send energies that, without a doubt, help the activation of certain particular vibrations within the individuals who incarnate; and somehow all this falls within the discourse that we will then resume in the next cycle as regards genetics and the activation of the various genes of the individual.
Just to anticipate this type of speech, I can tell you that it can actually be (I say "it can be" and this is important, not that "it is", which is different) that this type of cosmic vibrations induce the opening, the activation of certain genetic factors, of certain genetic characteristics, or inhibit others, causing individuals born in that given period, under that impulse of vibrations, to have - tend to have, at least - compatibly with their evolutionary needs, remember, particular character and behavioral tendencies.
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D - That was exactly what I meant, basically.
What unfortunately is difficult and often leads to ridiculous things, is to try to encode in a simple language referring to the individual what the current astrology says, and that most of the time it is nothing more than a set of meaningless banalities. which tend more to strike the listener's imagination than to give real indications.
Certainly in the past - especially in Caldea - there were great scholars, whom you would now call "magicians", who were in particular contact with these energetic forms, perceived them in a particular way since they were at a certain point of theevolution, and therefore they were able to establish through their sensitivity, but also through the mathematical knowledge they possessed, certain important influences within human events (the famous story of the Magi, right?); certainly they existed but I guarantee you, creatures, that right now they no longer exist.
D - I really thought that these vibrations could then predispose a person to certain experiences rather than to others; so, on a very general level.
Speech may be acceptable as a "predisposition".
D - I continue this discussion for a moment: could it be linked to astral DNA, that is, that those are the influences through which the individual activates certain emotional characteristics or not?
Let's say that the cosmic vibrations that affect the individual pass through the DNA and, crossing the DNA, they cross the astral, mental, akasic matter of the DNA.
Q - So as we said, that the physical DNA would contain all the characteristics and some are activated, in the same way the vibrations of the stars activate certain characteristics (aggression, tranquility, etc.) which are our emotional characteristics? Is it the means by which these are activated, perhaps?
"They might" activate, I did not say that they activate them; “Can” activate. It then always depends on the evolutionary needs of the individual.
D - Sure, but in agreement with these.
It is a matter of precedence in the starting hypothesis of the individual, for which the individual is so sacred, his evolutionary necessity is so sacred within the evolution of the race, that even cosmic influences can affect him only when they go according to the Divine Design and only when their vibrations cause the individual to activate those qualities which are contemplated in the Divine Plan.
D - In fact I thought it was in perfect agreement; otherwise, certainly not.
It is better to specify it otherwise it could leave some misunderstandings.
D - So astrology - in my opinion - serves not so much to establish "you must do this", as if in the physical it said "you were born to be a hunchback"; okay, hunchback I am but I have to overcome this handicap and live anyway. Equally astrology gives us some starting points: "you were born shy ..."
My dear, astrology genuinely does not give you anything right now, if I have to be honest. Astrology tells you "you were born in that period, you have these starting qualities because such was the hour, such was the day and away and away and away, hence your character, which I know ... irascible, little well disposed towards others, very selfish ".
Nice thing he gave you! All things that you could have easily known without going to the astrologer, it was enough for you to observe yourself for a moment!
D - Unless the astrologer warns that they are data to be overcome, to be fought.
But then it is no longer astrology, it is sensitivity on the part of the astrologer or, at least, psychological or intuitive refinement on the part of the astrologer, but it cannot be labeled as astrological knowledge.
D - And then there is also the fact that the moment of birth cannot be defined exactly.
Certainly, why what is the time of birth? When does it come to the outside of the mother? Is that where it has to be calculated? It is usually calculated there, but that's not where it needs to be calculated.
The moment of birth is the precise moment when the sperm fertilizes the egg; there are already the starting influences. Scifo
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Interesting, thanks.