D- Io I wanted to know if what usually here, in this Circle, are defined Guides would be the Entities who practically came out of the wheel of deaths and rebirths, or if they are only at higher levels, always on the lower planes.
Look, dear, it's not like we can generalize, because you know that there are many of us who intervene. For example, I have not gone out of the wheel of births and deaths, I have often said it, it is not that much that I have abandoned the physical plane, I have also combined enough in the course of my life and, therefore, I will certainly have other lives. to do, and many others with me, such as Zifed, such as Gneus, and so on.
And then there are, instead, some other Entities, but they are not many, however, they are not many, who have already abandoned the wheel of births and deaths, they will no longer incarnate, they have finished their evolutionary cycle within the planet and are now doing their job as Guides to get the Design to move forward the way it was designed.
D - Well, those would be the so-called Guides, and those others are Entities like you, who still have ...
But, look, in reality we are all a bit of Guide, aren't we?, because we say "guide" of a person who has the possibility of guiding another towards some place, towards some understanding in our case. Now, clearly, just to be less governed by the ego, as I am at this moment, means that I have a greater openness, a greater possibility of understanding than you have; therefore it means that, however it may be, I can teach you something, I can guide you towards something that I have understood and that you still have to understand.
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D - Type "pay taxes".
Exactly: like paying taxes ... and this here is a point on which my friend and I do not agree very much, but never mind; when he comes to my side I will make him understand the results of certain actions by showing him directly the result of those actions to what he has led.
D - Well, precisely because I also heard from certain chronicles that there were people who reincarnated even after 50 years and who still found the family they had had in their previous life. More than anything, these were chronicles concerning India.
Look, in theory one can also incarnate immediately after leaving the physical plane, sometimes, for example, it has happened - and it would have happened again tonight, if someone had asked, why there is a case here, among the people here. present - if anyone had asked about a particular person who has left the physical plane, I should have said that this person is actually already incarnated again.
Sometimes it happens that the incarnation is so immediate; however, it is not a very common thing, it is more likely that there is a certain period of time, also because the change of the weather inside the physical planet modifies social conditions, modifies cultural conditions, and so on, so let a certain period pass of time means being immersed in a different situation, with new possibilities of experience than the one you left behind.
Q - Yes, but you, for example, can you now know when the time will come when you will reincarnate again?
No, no, no, I don't know.
D - But maybe there are also those who know. It is something that one can ...
But, look, this is a bit of a fairy tale. In many quarters it is stated, for example, that entities have the possibility of choosing the incarnation: it is not true.
It is not true and it is also quite evident that it cannot be true, because if everyone could choose to incarnate whenever they want there would be no Design; the Drawing would all go to cards forty-eight; I don't know, everyone would like to incarnate - for example - in 2005 and then in the other years there would be no more incarnate, right?
It does not make sense. The Design is that, there are certain embodied persons and, from time to time, there is the possibility for a certain number of entities who are no longer embodied, who have now completed their journey in the after-death, have finished understanding. what they had to understand (in the after-death, ed), and so on, to be immersed again in physical matter to have a new incarnational experience to increase their understanding.
D - By saying this, you raised a doubt that I have reflected on many times. The discourse that “we can reincarnate after a short time”: isn't there always that obligatory path of abandoning vehicles, first one and then the other?
Ah, of course; this always happens, but do not forget, however, that the time of the physical plane is different from that of the other planes.
D - Exactly, I thought this. There is a chronological discrepancy of the times on the various planes.
Of course; this here is a difficult thing to understand, but when a day has passed for you, perhaps for an entity within the astral plane a year of astral time may have passed, for example. It is difficult to understand this until you live directly and with a certain conscience, clearly.
D - Listen, sorry, for some time I wanted to ask something: I read the lives of these men who have become great scientists, great artists, people who have made great discoveries, but I have always wondered if it is a matter of new vehicles for each incarnation or behind these abilities is there also the experience you have acquired in previous lives?
Certainly, without any shadow of doubt, there is a predisposition towards certain issues, no? You, who have been following for all these years, have come to the Circle, to follow the Teaching for twenty years, because already in previous lives you had come into contact with this aspect of reality, it had interested you, perhaps in the after-death in some the way you were able to increase your knowledge of the thing and you have therefore followed that path also in this life, because what you experienced before marks a kind of imprinting - let's say so, to stick with a term you know from the Teaching - within the individual who has his experience.
This does not mean, however, that there cannot be a totally different life instead, that in the next life each of you will have a life experience completely far from this type of environment, this type of spirituality, and so on.
D - Yes, but I thought that the structure of the vehicles is also needed, for example a big brain for a thinker, for a mathematician; it takes physiological structures, let's say.
Certainly, but keep in mind one thing: Reality you know that it exists all written, but not only the reality of the physical plane is written, "all" reality is written; so the existence of the famous thinker with his physical body, with his astral body, his mental body and so on is written, right?
D- When the entity is to reincarnate she is warned, she gets to know it, does someone tell her that she has to face the earthly experience again?
Actually no. No, no, no. He may feel it as a feeling of being ready, but a rather strange situation happens in most cases, a kind of sleep in which the entity falls to find himself inside the physical body, ready to carry on the new experience.
Q - Do you feel you are slipping into the physical body?
Let's say it can be a bit the opposite of what happens to instruments when they go into a trance, right? The instruments feel they are slipping into this strange condition, feeling canceled a little at a time, dissolving a little at a time in such a particular situation, and the same happens to the entity that has to incarnate, that feels - by analogy one could say - instead weighing it down until it makes contact with physical matter.
Q - But can the more evolved entities know it, or ...?
I repeat: it is possible that they realize this, of course.
D - What is the spring that triggers the passion between two people by involving and overwhelming all their feelings and making them vulnerable in the relationship of the other.
Ah, you tell me anything, dear! You want to keep me here until 3000, basically! I'll see how to summarize this a little bit without making too much confusion. In the meantime, it is necessary to establish precisely what is meant by passion; if we mean a passion of the senses or a passion of the whole being of the incarnate.
D - I would say of the whole being.
Well, when it comes to a passion that involves the whole being - indeed, both beings, because it would be much better if it involved two beings rather than just one, because then the frustrations come, right? - very often one can refer to what I said before, or to some link, some link that already existed in previous lives; maybe an affection that hadn't ended, a very, very strong affection that for some reason is renewed.
A very strong affection from a previous life is not necessarily an affection simply between husband and wife; it could be an affection between father and son, between mother and daughter, and so on, that in a subsequent life they find this love again and this love is interpreted through the new individuals in which the entities are embodied and becomes for the occasion, for that occasion, perhaps, just a love instead between wife and husband, between man and woman.
I know that this can be a speech that leaves a little perplexing, because it can almost give the idea of incest, in this way, but in reality here it is about love; love is not that it can be very differentiated according to the object of desire, love is a feeling that has no sex, then, in the end; this love is carried in the course of the various lives and then is expressed with the person towards whom this love, this vibration of love gets a particular resonance; and it is a particular resonance that involves a bit the whole individual, sets in motion the energies of the astral bodies of individuals, sets in motion the physical reactions, leading to all that complex of sensations, of way of being, of living, of you also contrast, at times, that you define "passion", not the passion of novels, but the real one, every day.
Q - Sorry, Georgei, this explanation you gave seems very romantic to me, but there are other components too? That is, there must be an Akasic reason why these individuals have something to do together, otherwise it would seem that these loves remain eternal, life after life you always reunite with that one, do you fall into the strongest passion and so on? There must be a reason, a sense of construction, of understanding, I don't know ...
But the sense of construction is given by what I said before, because when a love is established between two people, this love is not made only of poetry, of beauty, and so on, but it is made of exchanges, it is made of reciprocal actions, and therefore it sets in motion a set of mechanisms that give rise to small or large karmas. These small or large karmas are then found in a subsequent life and, on this basis of unfulfilled understandings - because the karmas, then, are due to misunderstandings - here is that a new love is recreated in order to try to experience those understandings that in that life there they had not put into practice.
D - What you said earlier gave me the idea of these coupled beings that go on forever in pairs, that is, coupled with each other and that's it.
In a way it is also like that, however.
D - Soul mates?
Well, in a sense, yes. I repeat: when a true relationship of love is established between two people, between two individualities, between two living beings, this relationship of love continues over time and when we meet again in some way it is reborn. Maybe it will not be born as a passion of the senses, it will not be born as a husband and wife relationship, but it will perhaps be born as a great friendship, for example. Great friendship is a relationship of love.
D - Yes, yes, we agree. I thought, however, that when you have reached a "top" of harmony with a person, for example, it no longer makes sense to meet them again because you have to experience different things; that it was almost a loss of it, or a “incorporate it”, if you want, but still a being in contact without the need to be in contact in life.
But, dear, the person you meet is not the same as the one you had in the previous life, his needs are different, his understandings are different, his wants and needs for understanding are different, as are yours; and here, then, that the relationship continues and is perfected if anything.
D - So it is also possible that we continue with an entity that, however, has different bodies, different bodies, and therefore the relationship is perfected through various encounters. Did you say this?
There have been cases, and I know of a few, for example, where two entities continued to incarnate over the centuries for 10 or 20 lifetimes because they were never able to overcome the problems they had at the same time; therefore they created negative karma for each other and therefore had to meet again to overcome it; maybe they surpassed that but they created something else, until they managed to reach a good enough balance point, after which for some lifetimes they no longer meet but there will still be the possibility that they will meet later to check if how much they had included together is still valid or not, or if there was still something to fix, actually. Georgei
thank you
Clear, thanks.