[…] Let's take a type of emotion, for example fear, and try to understand if the emotion that transforms into fear as you know it manifests itself differently depending on the social groups, therefore depending on the archetypes to which individuals are connected.
There are those who respond aggressively, there are those who flee, there are those who freeze, there are all these possible different reactions to fear.
[…] Let's take for example, to use two behavioral extremes, a group of Naziskins or a religious group, the reaction to the fear of Naziskins will most likely be, in most cases, to react aggressively, to respond by attacking, in order to hide the fact that you are afraid from yourself and others. Instead, within the religious group the reaction will perhaps be to try to mitigate this fear in an attempt to do the best thing to defuse the situation.
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Then, the starting emotion within the astral bodies is the same, the response to the perception of the vibration of the emotion "fear" will be different, depending on the models presented by the archetype which will clearly influence the expression of that particular emotion.
D – It makes me think that the difference between the different groups could be what triggers the fear. Maybe a type of vibration that in one group does not arouse anything in another instead arouses fear..
Of course this may also be true, but what does it depend on? From what we said before: that is, if in a group the members do not need to experience that particular type of experience, then the emotional vibration that passes through that group will have less importance than other emotional vibrations, so it will not trigger very strong reactions: it will perceived but will not have a major influence.
D - Regarding the expression of emotions, I was thinking of social groups that were very different from us, perhaps not necessarily Western, I was thinking of the expression of pain perhaps in Arab countries, compared to how it is more contained in us...
But certainly, going to extremes is sometimes a useful method. Let's think about the manifestation of pain in an Amazonian population for example, in which the pain, although felt like in all other civilizations, is not manifested but is in some way sublimated through contact with nature, something that you Westerners do not have or have. lost in time. So what do you do? You manifest your pain, most of the time, either with excessive reactions of a victim-like nature, or by trying to highlight the fact that you are strong and are not dominated by your pain.
But this discussion is actually not so easily generalizable, because if we talk about expression of pain just look within your country and see how the emotional manifestation and reaction of pain is different when examining it in the north and south of Italy. Apparently the manifestation of pain in the north is much colder, much more detached; apparently still, the manifestation of pain in the south is much more insistent, much more "scripted" than that of the north. However, here we are talking not about the perception, the reception of pain by the astral body of the various individuals, but rather about its external manifestation. These are different things.
However, if I were you, at this point a question would arise: "it seems to me that we have devoted ourselves more than anything else to considering the manifestation of the emotional reaction within the physical plane or, better yet, how the reaction is expressed within the physical plane; without a doubt, from this point of view, the transient archetypes they are the ones who lead the game, because they give the reaction models, indicate which factors one can or cannot react to and, even, how one can or cannot react to those factors, thus indicating what the basic characteristics of the various emotional reactions typical of that group should be.
But this is the external manifestation: when we remain inside the astral body of the individual, the reception of pain, for example, is the same for everyone and only the manifestation is different, or the reception of the emotion of pain is also different ?
D – Reception changes based on evolutionary needs not based on the archetype, in my opinion the archetype only influences the manifestation.
Without a doubt the archetype influences the manifestation of emotion, but, indirectly, It also influences the perception of pain.
Why “indirectly”? Because the fact of being connected to the same archetype means a certain commonality of evolutionary needs therefore, if there is a certain commonality in evolutionary needs, there is also a certain commonality of perception of certain elements; it is necessary, consequently, that the perception of these elements necessary forevolution of the adherents of that archetype, are in a fairly close range, do you think?
This means that the astral bodies of people belonging to the same archetype can perceive the emotion of fear by receiving that type of vibration in a similar way; this does not mean, obviously, that they all perceive it in the same way as it is modulated by their personal evolutionary needs, therefore with particular nuances that only affect their particular perception.
Here, therefore, everyone can perceive the emotion of fear, but each individual perceives it in a different, subjective, personalized way, and this will then lead to the personal interpretation of the dictates of the archetype leading to an emotional reaction which in turn will have particular personal nuances of subjectivity.
Do transitory archetypes serve to decode and interpret one's own evolutionary needs? They are used by the individual to experience, within a group, situations that can offer the possibility of understanding those elements that their own evolutionary needs require.
D – There may be a contrast between the way in which you perceive the emotion and the way in which the archetype would like it to manifest itself, so on the one hand the archetype asks you for a striking manifestation, but on the other hand you are not feeling nothing that is so striking?
Of course there can be. When can there be?
Q – When are you no longer connected to that archetype?
Q – Or when you are disconnecting?
Right, well done! When you get almost to the end of the need to belong, to be part, to be associated with that archetype, at that point you have experienced what the archetype could offer; at that point the experimentation is over, and therefore the reaction to what the archetype previously suggested as a model will certainly be different, because during the course of the experimentation the individual's understanding will have increased.
Q – In practice, when incarnated in the physical world, how does a conflict of this type manifest itself? It is like io I still feel like I can respond in a certain way, but in reality I can't do it anymore?
No, I would say that it manifests itself in a very different way: that is, in the attempt, until the archetype has been completely abandoned, to make others understand the same things that have been understood through experimentation with the archetype. So there is a tendency, within the group, to become a sort of spiritual leader of the group who shows the way and this, obviously, leads to problems in the long run. Scifo
